08-27-2018, 02:26 PM
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#61
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Brouwer said he sees a lot of similarities between the 2010 Blackhawks and this year's Panthers. But instead of older guys like John Madden coming him to help him, he's now become the older guy. Excited to help Florida's young stars.
Brouwer on #FlaPanthers: "I see something special in the making."
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I swear he said the exact same things about coming to Calgary.
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08-27-2018, 02:26 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I had the same question. Hard to imagine him believing he wasn't given enough opportunity here.
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Or hard to imagine he would think he was good enough here for that matter. I mean, he got bought out.
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08-27-2018, 02:27 PM
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#63
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North America
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I wonder if anyone been bought out in consecutive seasons?
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08-27-2018, 02:28 PM
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#64
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
I had the same question. Hard to imagine him believing he wasn't given enough opportunity here.
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Well quite honestly he didn't have a great opportunity with Calgary to put up points because the group, and especially who he found himself playing with, aren't tremendously prolific in their ability to score.
I could see him going to a team like the panthers and putting up more points than he did in his last season in Calgary, but based on the quality of his minutes I'd suggest those points sometimes come at the detriment of the team.
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I personally think that Brouwer is a better player than Hathaway.
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I think I'd agree with that. It's close, maybe closer than it should be, but Brouwer is probably better than Hathaway.
Hathaway though is an AHLer in my opinion. So is that like saying Brouwer is a 1st line AHLer and Hathaway is a 2nd line AHLer?
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08-27-2018, 02:32 PM
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#65
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoho
I wonder if anyone been bought out in consecutive seasons?
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If not, Troy Brouwer will not be the first casualty.
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08-27-2018, 02:33 PM
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#66
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Behind Enemy Lines
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So, Brouwer had 97.3 minutes of PP time in 17/18, and did not register a goal. He actually only had 14 shots on goal in that time. I think he was given more than enough opportunity on the PP.
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08-27-2018, 02:34 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
I swear he said the exact same things about coming to Calgary.
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Are you suggesting that hockey players throw out a bunch of cliched answers to the same boring questions?
Hockey interviews are the worst.
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08-27-2018, 02:35 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
This. This is a good contract for him. 4.5m was a very, very bad contract.
I’m not at all surprised he got another opportunity, and I think we all would’ve been happy with him at this price (given the lower expectations and, accordingly, the lower usage).
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I am not surprised he got another opportunity either. But I don't agree with the bold. Our projected lineup:
Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Bennett - Jankowski - Frolik
Rychel - Ryan - Czarnik
with Lazar, Hathaway, Mangiapane, Dube and Foo fighting to crack into that lineup.
Before they bought him out, I saw nowhere for him to play (yes, Rychel wasn't in the picture then, but that is LW, I like Mangiapane and Dube fighting it out for that spot). On RW, Brouwer had no place in the lineup this year, and I sure as hell didn't want to see him keeping Czarnik out of the lineup.
And that has nothing to do with salary - for me, anyway. I view salary as a sunk cost (once the season starts), and just want to ice the best team possible.
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08-27-2018, 02:35 PM
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#69
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Are you suggesting that hockey players throw out a bunch of cliched answers to the same boring questions?
Hockey interviews are the worst.
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I don't think Brouwer is giving 110%.
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08-27-2018, 02:35 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
I don't think Brouwer is giving 110%.
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but is he keeping on pushing forward?
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08-27-2018, 02:36 PM
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#71
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
but is he keeping on pushing forward?
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He's doing a lot of good things.
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08-27-2018, 02:37 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Toonage
He's doing a lot of good things.
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gotta just keep doing what he's doing and the results will come
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08-27-2018, 02:38 PM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
A more honest quote would be him seeing similarities between the team and a boat listing dangerously close to the rocks and how he can act as a giant ####ing anchor for them.
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"I think the Florida Panthers are a team in progress that are going somewhere and I feel that I'm the right man to put a stop to that nonsense!"
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08-27-2018, 02:40 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
"I think the Florida Panthers are a team in progress that are going somewhere and I feel that I'm the right man to put a stop to that nonsense!"
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"I'm going to win the Selke the best way I know how, by shutting my linemates down offensively"
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08-27-2018, 02:45 PM
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#75
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Location: Calgary
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That’s fantastic.
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08-27-2018, 02:55 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Give him an A!
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08-27-2018, 03:01 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Brouwer was overused in Calgary...if anything his numbers are inflated
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08-27-2018, 03:26 PM
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#79
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
I don't agree, actually.
I would've said that after year 1, but not after year 2. He's below replacement level IMO, and his inability to do things necessary on a 4th line makes him a less than ideal candidate for that role. I'm not talking about fighting or blocking shots, I'm talking about puck pressure, skating, and effort.
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Very true. While I'm glad Brouwer found another job, he just isn't a very good player in general anymore and he truly is an addition by subtraction.
For those saying that he's a fine player as long as he's being paid this lower salary, ask yourself this question; if NHL contracts were confidential and you had no idea what a player like Brouwer was being paid, would you have thought his performances the past 2 seasons were acceptable?
Sorry to say, but T-Bro sucks as a hockey player and no minimum salary is going to change that.
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08-27-2018, 04:17 PM
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#80
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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https://www.nhl.com/panthers/news/br...rs/c-299873062
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"I feel like I bring some depth," Brouwer said. "My numbers in Calgary over the past two years were not how I feel reflect the player that I am… I feel like I'm a versatile player. I can sit in and fill a lot of different roles. I know this team is a really young and talented team. For me, it's just to support and help out in situations that I excel in."
When asked what situations he'd like to be placed in, Brouwer joked that although "everybody would love to be on the power play" he's more interested in being the type of player that can slot in anywhere in the lineup on any given night, a piece of a larger championship puzzle.
"When the opportunity arrived to come to Florida and play for the Panthers, we were really excited about it," Brouwer said. "It's a phenomenal young team, a great place to live and something my family is really looking forward to."
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