03-02-2024, 05:19 PM
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#161
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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JK checks a few boxes. Might not be the best return suggested but probably a realistic piece. Young controllable Center with Backlund-esque numbers.
It’s not exciting but it’s not terrible, as long as there’s more to a deal involving him
Salary isn’t great.
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03-02-2024, 05:19 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by MacDaddy77
If flames are taking on his (Kotkaniemi) $4.8MM Cap hit for 6 more years there must be ALOT more to the pieces.
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No kidding a 1st and a good prospect as well taking on that contract for a 30 point player.
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03-02-2024, 05:21 PM
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#163
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sec214
Why so I can be told I'm full of #### writing fanfiction from a baby high chair?
I'll pass.
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Ignore them.
Don't let the fun parade stop here just for the handful of idiots. You can make this day even more special for the rest of us if you have information.
For kipper day?
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03-02-2024, 05:22 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I may be in the minority, but give me Bennett. Him and Huberdeau were great together in Florida, the shine has worn off in Florida with the point production a little down, and we could probably fetch another future 1st if we are taking cap away from them. I also think Bennett would be happy to fight for the 1st line center spot here. Makes too much sense to me.
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Yes, please! Bring back Sammy!
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03-02-2024, 05:22 PM
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#165
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
JK checks a few boxes. Might not be the best return suggested but probably a realistic piece. Young controllable Center with Backlund-esque numbers.
It’s not exciting but it’s not terrible, as long as there’s more to a deal involving him
Salary isn’t great.
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Kotkaniemi: .407
Backlund...: .540
For more money, with less of a 200 ft game.
No thanks
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03-02-2024, 05:24 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Backlund ####s on Kot's offensive game.
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03-02-2024, 05:24 PM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Kotkaniemi: .407
Backlund...: .540
For more money, with less of a 200 ft game.
No thanks
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I know, just trying to factor in he’s 23 and probably still improving
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03-02-2024, 05:27 PM
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#168
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by midniteowl
Yes, please! Bring back Sammy!
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Huh? Trade Hanifin to get older? No thank you.
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03-02-2024, 05:27 PM
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#169
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
I know, just trying to factor in he’s 23 and probably still improving
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He has actually regressed this year, with his lowest PPG as a Cane.
He's a #3 OA who has already had one team give up on him, now apparently another.
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03-02-2024, 05:30 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
He has actually regressed this year, with his lowest PPG as a Cane.
He's a #3 OA who has already had one team give up on him, now apparently another.
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Was just going to say that.
He’s going backwards a 23 and had a lot of term and an ugly AAV left.
This is not a trade you make.
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03-02-2024, 05:30 PM
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#171
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Bubba17
Why do people keep saying this, was he they key driver in getting to the finals, or was he one of the 25 guys who played on a team and rode the hot goalie to the cup finals?
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Florida was essentially running with three centers the entire playoffs - Barkov, Bennett, and Lundell - not unlike what the Flames were doing with Lindholm, Backlund, and Kadri earlier this year.
Lundell was averaging 17:00-18:00 mins a night (excluding the big 4OT game against the Canes) during that run while mostly playing with Reinhart and Luostarinen at ES, taking lots of D-zone starts, and anchoring their second PK unit (Barkov had PK1)
He's already a good player that can comfortably hold down the #3C spot on a president trophy worthy team, and has room to grow on both offense and defense. If he ends up on the Flames, it's a safe bet that he'll be Backlund v1.1, but even better at faceoffs than Backlund is.
The Flames could do a lot worse than Hanifin for Lundell on a 1:1 swap...if Hanifin is a pure rental to Florida. Personally, I think he's a way more compelling "get" than Poitras or anything that the Canes can offer.
Poitras is still young, but his WJC performance this year was really disappointing for someone playing in the NHL...there was no reason he should have been as invisible as he was.
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03-02-2024, 05:32 PM
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#172
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
He has actually regressed this year, with his lowest PPG as a Cane.
He's a #3 OA who has already had one team give up on him, now apparently another.
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I don't think you can say Montreal "gave up on him" but yes, he's been buried on the 4th line in Carolina. Could be a player that benefits from more skilled linemates, no disrespect to Jesper Fast and Stefan Noesen.
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03-02-2024, 05:32 PM
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#173
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First Line Centre
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Sadly Bennett isn’t too fond of Calgary.
That ship has sailed.
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03-02-2024, 05:34 PM
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#174
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Franchise Player
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I would think Kotkaniemi wouldn't be the main piece.
Hopefully it would be something like Hanifin + pick for 1st + Prospect (Morrow?) + Kotkaniemi
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03-02-2024, 05:35 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
Sadly Bennett isn’t too fond of Calgary.
That ship has sailed.
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Good. It would be too awkward to pull him back into the fold here.
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03-02-2024, 05:37 PM
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#176
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
I may be in the minority, but give me Bennett. Him and Huberdeau were great together in Florida, the shine has worn off in Florida with the point production a little down, and we could probably fetch another future 1st if we are taking cap away from them. I also think Bennett would be happy to fight for the 1st line center spot here. Makes too much sense to me.
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Not a chance they would trade Bennett going into this years playoffs. He is a playoff warrior .
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03-02-2024, 05:37 PM
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#177
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Franchise Player
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Have to think if the Flames are talking to the Canes and JK is involved it is because Carolina may want to do a sign and trade and he is the salary that needs to be moved out to make it happen. If he was attached to a few other young prospects or picks it could be a good deal.
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03-02-2024, 05:37 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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If JK is involved then I hope we don't trade with Carolina.
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03-02-2024, 05:39 PM
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#179
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Nov 2016
Exp:
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I'd seriously consider Kotkaniemi and a 1st (Assuming rental situation. More if not.) and throw the kid with Huberdeau and see if anything clicks. $4.8M doesn't bother me that much if he ends up in the top 9 considering the rising cap.
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03-02-2024, 05:39 PM
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#180
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#1 Goaltender
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Kotkaniemi is awesome but not a #1C. Calgary won't get that in a trade anyways.
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