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Old 08-17-2011, 01:24 PM   #1
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What is the best software (PC) for writing, composing, recording music (guitar)? How about sampling bits from other songs?

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Guitar Tracks Pro 4 -- Designed for guitarists and singer-songwriters, Guitar Tracks Pro is the recording solution that takes your music from riff to hit easier than ever.

With Guitar Tracks Pro you get much more than just recording software. You get an amazing virtual guitar amp for inspired, arena ready tones -- without disturbing the neighbors. You also get an entire backing band of virtual instruments - always ready to accompany you. Plus: precise editing tools to comp the perfect solo or vocal track, a mixing console, effects arsenal, even burn CD's or upload your music directly to the web -- all for less than a few hours in the recording studio. Get it all in Guitar Tracks Pro.



Music Creator 6 turns your computer into your own personal recording studio and includes everything you need to create, edit, and mix professional recordings. Whether it’s a cover of your favorite tune or an original composition, turn a simple idea into a finished song with Music Creator’s powerful suite of tools, loops, instruments, and effects. And when you’re ready to share your music with the world, you can burn a CD or use SoundCloud to post your music on Facebook and Twitter.
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http://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php

Guitar Pro 6 is a musical software program offering all of the functionalities that all guitarists need.
  • Edit, visualize, and share your scores
  • Learn to play or improve your technique
  • Accompany yourself by creating the instrumental tracks of your choice
  • Enjoy a series of essential tools: scale-validating tool, tuner, metronome, guitar fretboard...
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:29 PM   #3
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Not sure if you're running a Mac but Garageband is actually pretty good for something included for free with the computer. You can easily record and demo songs on it. If you want something more robust you can go for Logic Express, and even jump up to Logic (full version) if you're hardcore. I use a combination of Garageband (as a scratch pad for ideas) then Logic Express for some more heavy duty tracking/recordin/editing.

On Windows I used to use Cubase, and it was fantastic. That was quite some time ago, not sure how their software has changed in recent years.
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Cubase 6 comes with many new and exciting features that make the latest incarnation of Cubase possibly the most comprehensive DAW to date. But it’s also all the small details that have been refined or newly introduced that make the overall Cubase experience not only more powerful but truly inspiring.

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I second Garageband/Logic if you're on a Mac. On a PC, just like Igottago said use Cubase. Ableton Live is a pretty decent product too. All of these allow Multi-track recording, VST instruments, and sequencing.

On a side note, is it an electric guitar that you're planning on recording? What is your plan for input into the computer?
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I like Guitar Hero personally.
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I second Garageband/Logic if you're on a Mac. On a PC, just like Igottago said use Cubase. Ableton Live is a pretty decent product too. All of these allow Multi-track recording, VST instruments, and sequencing.

On a side note, is it an electric guitar that you're planning on recording? What is your plan for input into the computer?
I have an electric and an acoustic with a pick-up. I have not thought about input yet.
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http://www.ableton.com/live-8

Ableton Live is about making music; for composition, songwriting, recording, production, remixing and live performance. Live's nonlinear, intuitive flow, alongside powerful real-time editing and flexible performance options, make it a unique studio tool and a favorite with live performers. If you'd rather be "making music" than just "using music software," Ableton Live is for you. Live 8, the latest version, includes a wealth of new techniques and improvements with a new groove engine, revamped warping, live looping, new effects, crossfades in the Arrangement View and a reworked MIDI editor.

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Should've mentioned that if guitar is your primary instrument of use, Logic actually has really good built in amp and pedal modelling for a variety of effects.

http://www.apple.com/logicexpress/plug-ins.html

This thread reminds me that I need to go back and start using this stuff more often. Its pretty fun to mess around with once you figure out how to use the software.

For guitar input get something like this and you're set:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/TQ...co=MTUwNzc5MjM
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I have an electric and an acoustic with a pick-up. I have not thought about input yet.

I have a Line6 PodXT Live that I use to plug in my Guitar(s) to the computer via USB, but Line6 make something called the TonePort which smaller (more purpose built) recording tool. Comes with 1/4" inputs, XLR, USB, and gives you a wide range of options for Line6's famous amp/stompbox modelling. Also, if you ever decide you want to sing along, the TonePort has 48v Phantom Power to power a condenser mic. I don't think they're more than a couple of hundred bucks too. Or I can sell you my XTLive.
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I use Guitar Pro 6 to learn songs on, download the file then I can play along (slow it down to learn it, etc.) I like it because it is easy to use, although I think I have version 5.

I haven't tried recording yet as I don't have a midi cord.
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Hey CP crew, I am looking at getting into music production...and am torn between
Ableton Live, Reason, and even Fruity Loops....anyone have expereince of all 3? or else have an opinion for each one?
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Ableton Live, Reason, and even Fruity Loops....anyone have expereince of all 3? or else have an opinion for each one?
Abelton, and especially FruityPoops are toys. ProTools sucks at MIDI. Cubase is the way to go. But it's all about your plugins. For GTR, get Amplitube 3. Drums is BFD2. The Waves bundles for mixing are fantastic.
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Ableton Live, Reason, and even Fruity Loops....anyone have expereince of all 3? or else have an opinion for each one?
I've used all 3. And Reason out of the 3 you mentioned is tops. Reason 6 is coming out and they added so much more to it. I'm actually super excited about it.

And don't knock fruity loops. It's cheap and easy to learn, and I was in a studio with a guy that produced records for Snoop and he was using fruity loops. It's not about the software you use if you know how to use it well. Best tip I got starting out was build your sound library. You can't have enough sounds
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I use Guitar Pro 4 and Reason 5. Haven't found any decent amp modeling software but they are also expensive so I haven't tried them. Also, you require a very good sampling rate sound card in your computer. I always get too much feedback and echos.
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I use Guitar Pro 4 and Reason 5. Haven't found any decent amp modeling software but they are also expensive so I haven't tried them. Also, you require a very good sampling rate sound card in your computer. I always get too much feedback and echos.
Reason 6 has Line 6 guitar and bass amps.

http://www.propellerheads.se/reason6/index.cfm
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Great thread!

I picked the Zoom G2.1u effects pedal couple yrs ago, but haven't used the USB input much. Hope to get into it this winter.

I want to set up a basic home recording studio.

Thoughts/suggestions on microphone setup to compliment guitar?

I'd also like to have a basic setup to play music/jam. I got a guitar and amp of course, but would like to set up a couple of mics as well. Suggestions and thoughts greatly appreciated!

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I use Adobe Audition and I love it.

It's easy and powerful plus there are a lot of tutorials out there to teach you how to use it.

I also have a great msic SFX library I'd "digitally lend" you for a small fee.

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I started out just with Garageband and moved up to a copy of Logic. I'm still working my way around it. Garageband is really intuitive though and I was able to grasp and work up stuff really quickly.

When I moved to Logic I went to Long & McQuade and picked up these two things:


This is a Tascam US-122 - bascially a USB DI box. It's got quarter inch and XLR inputs.

I also got a little Oxygen MIDI controller:


I think the two together ran my about two hundred bucks or less.

As people mentioned, the Logic amp modelling is really good. You can basically whip up an amp set up and have it respond like you'd expect.
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I am on mac, currently using Logic Pro 9 and learning Pro Tools 9.

The only thing I can offer my advice on what software is that use something overly easy to use, then "try" out a few more expensive ones. when you pick what you want/like out of the expensive then go with it and they are all similar but all have completely different shortcuts/ways to do things.

The other thing you will learn with amp modeling is they sound good with the presets, once you start mucking around some they start to sound not so good or completely terrible.

With your acoustic definantly get a decent mic (even rent one for a month at L&M) to play with as well as having the direct input from the pickup, this way you can pick up the room/guitar harmonics/string sound and then mix them together or pan them left and right to have a very nice prnounced however "real" sound to the recording.

Also there is great podcasts and forums dedicated to home recording that have alot of info in them, obviously for free so i learned a bunch of tricks from them.


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In the end, be prepared to listen to what your playing and picking out ALOT of stuff you are doing wrong, wether it be string noise, muffled strings, etc. It is fun though, rpetty easy to kill and evening just playing around.

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