Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[Inferno]

Matt Hardy keeps posting videos of Bray Wyatt and the glitches and QR codes that have been showing up recently.

It's probably just him trolling fans but maybe if he does decide to return he'll be connected somehow.

[trackercowe]

Matt Hardy wants the WWE more than the WWE wants Jeff Hardy...

Maybe a one-time appearance, then send them to the hall of fame. They shouldn't be active wrestlers in 2024.

[CaptainCrunch]

Please don't neither of the Hardy's can work anymore, and I'd rather not see Jeff lose the rest of his highschool memories.

[trackercowe]

Send Jeff to rehab so we can avoid having another A&E Biography with grainy file footage taken a decade before the air-date.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah I feel like Matt is trying to inject himself into that or try to create some hype from fans to see if he can get a job.

But really nobody wants him back with that group.

Hardy's really need to just step away at this point.

[trackercowe]

An idea that someone pitched... I would mark out like crazy if this match happens. Having Sammy back with the Bloodline in my lifetime NEEDS to happen. Roman and Sammy made such a great team. It would be an easy story to create as well. Just need to get Rock and Roman aboard. If Rock can't be there find another Samoan to sub in for him.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Send Jeff to rehab so we can avoid having another A&E Biography with grainy file footage taken a decade before the air-date.

You can make him live at a rehab facility. If he doesn't want to get clean, you're not going to make him.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

An idea that someone pitched... I would mark out like crazy if this match happens. Having Sammy back with the Bloodline in my lifetime NEEDS to happen. Roman and Sammy made such a great team. It would be an easy story to create as well. Just need to get Rock and Roman aboard. If Rock can't be there find another Samoan to sub in for him.

Can we replace Sammy with R-Truth. Ok, I kid, but I don't think putting Sammy into a group helps him.




And R-Truth is a national treasure.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

I'd totally be in favour of putting R-Truth in EVERY faction all at once.

[rubecube]

Interesting report for those certain of AEW's imminent demise.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/justint...h=1e7aac8cabde

Forbes has them valued at $2B.

EDIT: The ####ty thing about this is it's just gonna embolden Tony to keep being #### booker.

[Blaster86]

The value is there, but I think most people are talking about the next TV deal. If that's not good, that valuation goes down.

That being said, I think the people thinking AEW is in trouble are high.

[trackercowe]

Those Forbes valuations are hypothetical. If you believe AEW actually has a 2 billion dollar valuation then I have a bridge to sell you as well. Outside of the product in the ring (which Tony doesn't control) they haven't done anything right in years.

WCW was "valued" at being worth 3 billion in 2000 based on similar projections. It was sold for 4.3 million merely a year later. At what point will Shahid Khan stop giving his son an allowance? AEW's current television deal is expiring in 8 months, let's see what happens between now and then. It's pretty obvious they won't ever draw over a million viewers again.

Cesaro vs. Ospreay was fantastic, as was Sammy vs. Gable. AEW does put on great matches, that's something I'll never debate. I wonder when they'll hotshot Ospreay into the title scene. Looks like they're going to do Ospreay vs. Don Callis Family, which feels like a miss to me. He's already gone over all of them!

[SuperMatt18]

IMO stuff like Don Callis family takes away from AEW TV.

Want him to manage Take####a...sure that works

Create a bloated stable around him that takes too much TV time...why?

[Blaster86]

trackercrowe is high.


edit - Still crack up every time Takeshita's name gets censored. I don't know why. I may also be high.

[Ozy_Flame]

Don Callis is the Paul Heyman of AEW, and Heyman has the Bloodline. Yet Callis gets #### on for having a stable?

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Don Callis is the Paul Heyman of AEW, and Heyman has the Bloodline. Yet Callis gets #### on for having a stable?

Don Callis draws heat, and is the best heel manager in the company. Yet the stable is kind of driftless at this point, they're not doing much of anything. Take is my favourite wrestler in the company, yet shows up sporadically, and is rarely involved in any kind of program or feud. He had the program with Omega, a nothing burger with Jericho, then a short feud with Sting/Darby... not much else to speak of.

Compare that to the competition where they seem to be be booking everyone into a program, right down to fricken Maxxine Dupris and indi Hartwell. It's just frustrating to watch, knowing what a proper booker could do for AEW. Where's Arn Anderson at these days? Make him the head booker.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Don Callis is the Paul Heyman of AEW, and Heyman has the Bloodline. Yet Callis gets #### on for having a stable?

Maybe it's more that the stable's never felt that coherent then, more than the thought of Callis having a stable at all.

Take####a
Ospreay
Aussie Open
Hobbs

Just feels like a weird faction to me. Hobbs, Ospreay, Take####a all fill the same role to me. Who is the leader of the group? Who is the guy you're trying to build to a main eventer? I don't think it's done much for Hobbs or Ospreay and Aussie Open, but Callis was great for Take####a for sure, until it just kind of fell off.

I don't really thinking I was critizing Callis, just think he is better suited as the main guy for a single wrestler.

Actually similar to Heyman. Bloodline is a bit different due to Roman's part time status and Bloodline/Heyman kept his stories moving on TV. And Reigns was always the clear leader of the faction. But Heyman is really better as a single manager (Punk, Brock, Roman), I see Callis as a similar way. Even with the bloodline I still think Heyman was Roman's manager, he rarely came out for an USO's or Solo match if Roman wasn't involved.

I like Callis when it was just him and Omega as the belt collectors...I thought Anderson/Gallows and others made that story worse too.

Same thing now. I'd rather they just focus on Callis making Take####a into a killer and focus on him winning titles. But Trackercowe nailed it. It feels like it's less focused and just kind of drifting aimlessly now. Where just Callis+Take####a felt like they were building a new superstar.

[Inferno]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1781433557249888651

[Inferno]

Jinder Mahal and Xyon Quinn have been released according to Sean Ross Sapp.

[Ozy_Flame]

Xia Li gone too.