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View Poll Results: Who should the Flames pick at 6th overall?
Chychrun 78 16.49%
Juolevi 30 6.34%
Sergachev 26 5.50%
Nylander 242 51.16%
Jost 21 4.44%
Brown 30 6.34%
Keller 6 1.27%
Bean 4 0.85%
McLeod 9 1.90%
Jones 1 0.21%
McAvoy 0 0%
Fabbro 2 0.42%
Gauthier 7 1.48%
Robtsov 0 0%
Other (specify) 17 3.59%
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:03 PM   #241
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If we pick Nylander and he turns out to be good but we still need size, it shouldn't be too hard to trade a winger for a winger.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:08 PM   #242
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Jeff Marek, on Marek vs Wyshinsky mentioned that John Davidson - President of Hockey Ops for Columbus, mentioned to him that as far as they are concerned it's a two player top end and not a top-three. This opened the discussion to the idea of Columbus trading down and trying to clear out some of their bad contracts in the process.

I would be very interested in the Flames trying to jump up and grab #3 depending on the price. It would likely involve taking on someone like Dubinsky, Foligno, Clarkson (ugh), or possibly a Jack Johnson.

Would that be worth it?

Say picks 6, 28, Rasmus Andersson and Wideman for 3, 35, and ... Foligno?
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:14 PM   #243
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Jeff Marek, on Marek vs Wyshinsky mentioned that John Davidson - President of Hockey Ops for Columbus, mentioned to him that as far as they are concerned it's a two player top end and not a top-three. This opened the discussion to the idea of Columbus trading down and trying to clear out some of their bad contracts in the process.

I would be very interested in the Flames trying to jump up and grab #3 depending on the price. It would likely involve taking on someone like Dubinsky, Foligno, Clarkson (ugh), or possibly a Jack Johnson.

Would that be worth it?

Say picks 6, 28, Rasmus Andersson and Wideman for 3, 35, and ... Foligno?

Totally do that trade all day. We don't have the cap space to really pull it off though. Your deal nets us Folingo, while overpaid, would address the need for a top 6 winger here.

I could see Columbus trading down with Vancouver and not having to take on any bad contracts like they do in your scenario. The Nucks have 2 high seconds and cap space. They could take one of those players and offer up 5, 33 and 34 to draft a fin. We can't pull it off without sending back a bad contract.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:15 PM   #244
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Jeff Marek, on Marek vs Wyshinsky mentioned that John Davidson - President of Hockey Ops for Columbus, mentioned to him that as far as they are concerned it's a two player top end and not a top-three. This opened the discussion to the idea of Columbus trading down and trying to clear out some of their bad contracts in the process.

I would be very interested in the Flames trying to jump up and grab #3 depending on the price. It would likely involve taking on someone like Dubinsky, Foligno, Clarkson (ugh), or possibly a Jack Johnson.

Would that be worth it?

Say picks 6, 28, Rasmus Andersson and Wideman for 3, 35, and ... Foligno?
I would be beyond shocked if Columbus passed on Puljujarvi. I'd love to trade up and get him, but I don't think that's a realistic possibility.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:20 PM   #245
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Burke's head might explode but 92 to 93 would be a lot of fun to watch.
Why would Burke's head explode? This is a guy who had a #1 line of Kunitz-McDonald-Selanne. Prime Bennett should be more of a physical beast than any of those three.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:25 PM   #246
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Why would Burke's head explode? This is a guy who had a #1 line of Kunitz-McDonald-Selanne. Prime Bennett should be more of a physical beast than any of those three.
Numbers > 35.
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I am with you here. I really hope we can get one of the power forward wingers but getting the speedy, skilled right shot is not a bad consolation prize by any means. Hearing Benning talk about rather having a first line winger than top 4 Dman makes me believe that they take who is left of Tkachuk and Dubois.

Oilers could be a wild card. I don't see them taking a Dman at 4 but could see them trading the pick outright for a player, trading down, or take one of those power forwards.
Oilers will take a forward, they always do. They don't need defence.
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Numbers > 35.
Ah. That makes sense then.
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Old 05-02-2016, 07:31 PM   #249
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The excuse for why the Oilers haven't drafted a defenceman (besides Nurse) early always seems to be "we need a top defender now, not in 3 or 4 years". I actually agree with that.

I think it's funny though that they were saying this 3-4 years ago as well, and look where they are now.
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The excuse for why the Oilers haven't drafted a defenceman (besides Nurse) early always seems to be "we need a top defender now, not in 3 or 4 years". I actually agree with that.

I think it's funny though that they were saying this 3-4 years ago as well, and look where they are now.
You can trade for or sign via free agency a top 4 defenseman but most of the time the only way to get a franchise defenseman is to draft him. Oilers wasted so many years trying to plug holes they are still in the same situation of needing a top pairing. If they are going to take a defenseman though why wouldn't they trade back at at least recoup an asset as there looks to be a log jam of defensemen in the 7-12 spots.
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If we could get the #3 pick then you take a bad contract back and make something work. Buy someone out give away a player or two.
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Jeff Marek, on Marek vs Wyshinsky mentioned that John Davidson - President of Hockey Ops for Columbus, mentioned to him that as far as they are concerned it's a two player top end and not a top-three. This opened the discussion to the idea of Columbus trading down and trying to clear out some of their bad contracts in the process.

I would be very interested in the Flames trying to jump up and grab #3 depending on the price. It would likely involve taking on someone like Dubinsky, Foligno, Clarkson (ugh), or possibly a Jack Johnson.

Would that be worth it?

Say picks 6, 28, Rasmus Andersson and Wideman for 3, 35, and ... Foligno?
As much as the idea of puljujarvi has me salivating , Rasmuss Andersson is a prospect im not moving anytime soon
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As much as the idea of puljujarvi has me salivating , Rasmuss Andersson is a prospect im not moving anytime soon
If that trade is on the table, you take it 12 times out of 10 IMO.
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Jeff Marek, on Marek vs Wyshinsky mentioned that John Davidson - President of Hockey Ops for Columbus, mentioned to him that as far as they are concerned it's a two player top end and not a top-three. This opened the discussion to the idea of Columbus trading down and trying to clear out some of their bad contracts in the process.

I would be very interested in the Flames trying to jump up and grab #3 depending on the price. It would likely involve taking on someone like Dubinsky, Foligno, Clarkson (ugh), or possibly a Jack Johnson.

Would that be worth it?

Say picks 6, 28, Rasmus Andersson and Wideman for 3, 35, and ... Foligno?
Would Bobrovsky be a guy that would interest the Flames?. Big contract and had some injuries. Columbus did play Korpisalo alot when Bobrovsky was injured and he looked good.
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Would Bobrovsky be a guy that would interest the Flames?. Big contract and had some injuries. Columbus did play Korpisalo alot when Bobrovsky was injured and he looked good.
I'd be 765% interested in Bob.
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Columbus trade seems too good to be true. I'm skeptical their going to trade the pick. Not for Rasmus Andersson anyways. Foligno had a bad year but I'm not sure that completely kills his value. Not in the trade proposed here anyway. Would love to see us move up though so if the price is right I hope were all over it.
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Jeff Marek, on Marek vs Wyshinsky mentioned that John Davidson - President of Hockey Ops for Columbus, mentioned to him that as far as they are concerned it's a two player top end and not a top-three. This opened the discussion to the idea of Columbus trading down and trying to clear out some of their bad contracts in the process.
I too see it as a top tier of two. But then its followed by Puljujarvi alone in his tier at 3. I still think the price to trade out of there would be pretty crazy. We could probably pay it but I'm not sure we'd want to.
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I too see it as a top tier of two. But then its followed by Puljujarvi alone in his tier at 3. I still think the price to trade out of there would be pretty crazy. We could probably pay it but I'm not sure we'd want to.
Yup. Any trade proposal without Monahan, Bennett or Gaudreau is all for none. Columbus doesn't want a couple more picks and/or spare parts for a potential franchise finnish player.

I'm not willing to part with any of those 3 that's for sure.
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#3 + #35 + David Clarkson (buyout purposes?) for #6 + #28(ish) + Prospect (Andersson?) + Wideman.

BJ's end up saving $5.25 for all of eternity, gain a prospect like Andersson or an equal quality player, and the picks move a few spots each way.
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If Columbus were to actually consider Foligno or Bob a salary dump, I would be happy to take on that kind of anchor. Three years of an established goaltender or five years of a gritty team leader RW in his prime. Ok, sign me up.

Clarkson though, keep the 6th.
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