10-06-2021, 02:11 PM
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#3701
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Let’s start connecting the dots here:
Eichel trade ramping up
Monahan, Valimaki sitting
Dube lining up at center.
When those dots are connected. Monahan, Valimaki, 1st, 2nd, +? For Eichel
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10-06-2021, 02:14 PM
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#3702
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Only works if Sutter is comfortable with Dube at Center. Because Eichel ain't playing this year.
Also means, in my opinion we will lose one of Tkachuk or Gaudreau at the end of this season only because paying 3 players 9m + isn't close to an ideal situation to balance a team.
Add in expected raises for at least 3 other players, things get tight real quick.
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10-06-2021, 02:18 PM
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#3703
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Only works if Sutter is comfortable with Dube at Center. Because Eichel ain't playing this year.
Also means, in my opinion we will lose one of Tkachuk or Gaudreau at the end of this season only because paying 3 players 9m + isn't close to an ideal situation to balance a team.
Add in expected raises for at least 3 other players, things get tight real quick.
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That is where I think signing Gaudreau is key because Tkachuk can certainly be traded for assets being an RFA and Johnny would just walk. Could help the flames recoup futures lost in the Eichel deal.
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10-06-2021, 02:21 PM
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#3704
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Steinberg wants the Flames to go after Eichel Nault doesn’t think they should touch him with a 10 foot pole. Talks mentioned that the Flames have been one of the most consistent teams in the mix so far but not sure if they are still in it
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10-06-2021, 02:31 PM
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#3705
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Let’s start connecting the dots here:
Eichel trade ramping up
Monahan, Valimaki sitting
Dube lining up at center.
When those dots are connected. Monahan, Valimaki, 1st, 2nd, +? For Eichel
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Odd right? Wouldn't you think that Monahan should be playing to get up to game speed? Id have Valimaki playing over Tanev at this point too because of the competition for the final 3-4 D spots. Dube at Centre is interesting too, means they are looking at that option.
I am curious what this means, too much coincidence here. Monahan has to know that he could be flipped too if he lands in Buffalo and his contract is almost up. I think he just cares about playing enough to rack up points to get another sizeable contract.
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10-06-2021, 02:39 PM
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#3706
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by talladega.25
Odd right? Wouldn't you think that Monahan should be playing to get up to game speed? Id have Valimaki playing over Tanev at this point too because of the competition for the final 3-4 D spots. Dube at Centre is interesting too, means they are looking at that option.
I am curious what this means, too much coincidence here. Monahan has to know that he could be flipped too if he lands in Buffalo and his contract is almost up. I think he just cares about playing enough to rack up points to get another sizeable contract.
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When you put it altogether it can paint a narrative the Flames are still in the mix. Playing Dube at center could be something they need to do for 3/4 of the season if they make a trade. Kylington becomes so much more important now and in the future if Valimaki is moved.
I could see Monahan flipped to a third team for cap dumps and futures.
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10-06-2021, 02:43 PM
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#3707
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Let’s start connecting the dots here:
Eichel trade ramping up
Monahan, Valimaki sitting
Dube lining up at center.
When those dots are connected. Monahan, Valimaki, 1st, 2nd, +? For Eichel
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Funny how earlier in the process people would have laughed at a package like that but I think it is very close. I think it could be just Monahan, Valimaki and a 1st. May be just haggling over pick protection.
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10-06-2021, 02:51 PM
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#3708
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Calgary
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Or maybe Monahan is just injured and Valimaki hasn't beaten out Kylington for a spot yet.
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10-06-2021, 02:53 PM
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#3709
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHawk12
Or maybe Monahan is just injured and Valimaki hasn't beaten out Kylington for a spot yet.
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or it is just this yes.......haha
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10-06-2021, 03:03 PM
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#3711
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Steinberg wants the Flames to go after Eichel Nault doesn’t think they should touch him with a 10 foot pole. Talks mentioned that the Flames have been one of the most consistent teams in the mix so far but not sure if they are still in it
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Will Nault has never had a good take in his life though, so that's not surprising that he wouldn't want them to trade for Eichel.
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10-06-2021, 03:08 PM
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#3712
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Scoring Winger
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Something tells me we will be in on this Buffalo trade but we will be part of the transaction as a 3rd party to facilitate trade with suitor. Bridesmaid
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10-06-2021, 03:08 PM
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#3713
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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If the package is Monahan + Coronato + Valimaki + 22 1st (unprotected)+22 2nd (FLA)
Would you do it?
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10-06-2021, 03:11 PM
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#3714
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Yep
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10-06-2021, 03:14 PM
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#3715
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
If the package is Monahan + Coronato + Valimaki + 22 1st (unprotected)+22 2nd (FLA)
Would you do it?
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Do that in a heartbeat, and would add Peltier or Zary if needed
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10-06-2021, 03:19 PM
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#3716
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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If the Flames could turn that Monahan + futures for Eichel they should really work to close that Gaudreau extension and go all in this year and hope the team gets a healthy Eichel for the stretch drive and see what they can do. Then in the summer trading Tkachuk for futures makes sense as the cap space would be really tough to find and this team would need the futures.
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10-06-2021, 03:24 PM
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#3717
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
If the package is Monahan + Coronato + Valimaki + 22 1st (unprotected)+22 2nd (FLA)
Would you do it?
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I would personally drive all of them to Buffalo to make that work.
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10-06-2021, 03:33 PM
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#3718
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moncton golden flames
I would personally drive all of them to Buffalo to make that work.
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10-06-2021, 03:36 PM
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#3719
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
If the package is Monahan + Coronato + Valimaki + 22 1st (unprotected)+22 2nd (FLA)
Would you do it?
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No. Remove the 2nd, and make the pick top 5 protected and it's closer.
This team minus Monahan (and no Eichel for the year) is one key injury away from being in the Shane Wright sweepstakes.
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10-06-2021, 03:40 PM
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#3720
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Will Nault has never had a good take in his life though, so that's not surprising that he wouldn't want them to trade for Eichel.
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Nault at least isn't afraid to criticize this team and its history of mediocrity.
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