Israel declares war on Hamas

[TheIronMaiden]

I'd be curious for an article that details the relief that Israel is proving in Palestine. I am willing to use google translate if need be.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Why do you assume anyone who calls for an end to needless killing is antisemitic? Is there a word for that? We need a word for that.

Probably because you treat jewish lives as worthless and get angry when they defend themselves or try to rescue the hostages. Honestly you are on the side of rapists and people who burned women and children to death, how do you look in a mirror?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Probably because you treat jewish lives as worthless and get angry when they defend themselves or try to rescue the hostages. Honestly you are on the side of rapists and people who burned women and children to death, how do you look in a mirror?

I don't think either side can claim innocence with respect to rape, and burning women and children.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by blankall

That offer comes with no consequences to Hamas. Hamas enters Israel kills over a thousand people and rapes multiple women. Takes hundreds of captives. Then the correct action by Israel is to declare a ceasefire?

That wasn't happening in Israel. It wouldn't have happened anywhere else. That was Hamas realizing that they had overstepped.

So they’ll stop if they release the hostages but wouldn’t have stopped starting if they had released the hostages?

OK lol

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Probably because you treat jewish lives as worthless and get angry when they defend themselves or try to rescue the hostages. Honestly you are on the side of rapists and people who burned women and children to death, how do you look in a mirror?

WTF are you talking about? Goddamn, get some reading comprehension.


How many hostages has the IDF successfully rescued? Ok, now you have that number(it's 3), how can you possibly still believe that is the goal? Or are they just really bad at it? Because they've killed at least 70 of them. 3:70 ratio is pretty ####, no?

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

WTF are you talking about? Goddamn, get some reading comprehension.


How many hostages has the IDF successfully rescued? Ok, now you have that number(it's 3), how can you possibly still believe that is the goal? Or are they just really bad at it? Because they've killed at least 70 of them. 3:70 ratio is pretty ####, no?

How many have they rescued? What does that matter? Maybe they should have you running the mission because you clearly know how to rescue civilians who might already be dead from a heavy populated/radicalized area. You make it sound so easy, you must have like 10K hours in CoD.

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't think either side can claim innocence with respect to rape, and burning women and children.

I don't hear much about IDF raping women, weird how that was a main goal of Hamas and they even video taped it. Also IDF doesn't target civilians whereas that is exactly what Hamas targets. But hey you wanna defend Hamas you do you, you a big fan of ISIS too?

[Fuzz]

The point is that rescuing hostages isn't a high priority goal of theirs, they'd prefer to blow up buildings and deal with the corpses. So by you saying they are killing people because of hostage rescues, it's just not demonstrable true.


And no, I'm far too old to have the fast twitch muscle control for FPSs. Good your mind went to a video game though! Fantasy killing distances yourself from the brutal reality of it all.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The point is that rescuing hostages isn't a high priority goal of theirs, they'd prefer to blow up buildings and deal with the corpses. So by you saying they are killing people because of hostage rescues, it's just not demonstrable true.


And no, I'm far too old to have the fast twitch muscle control for FPSs. Good your mind went to a video game though! Fantasy killing distances yourself from the brutal reality of it all.

I'm not you, im not gonna sit here in my armchair and make claims about how to rescue hostages from a fanatical death cult like Hamas. You claim its so damn easy I thought you must have some l33t skills that would allow you to repel through a window and shoot the guns out of Hamas hands and then save all the 1 year old children that Hamas kidnapped.


Weird how you think I am the detached one when you are calling for a ceasefire like that wouldn't accomplish anything but more slaughter. Here is a newflash for you brainiac, there was a "cease fire" with Gaza since Israel pulled all of their troops and residents out of Gaza IN 2005! Like 19 years ago and this is the result of that. What is another ceasefire with murderous lunatics like Hamas going to accomplish this time?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

I don't hear much about IDF raping women, weird how that was a main goal of Hamas and they even video taped it. Also IDF doesn't target civilians whereas that is exactly what Hamas targets. But hey you wanna defend Hamas you do you, you a big fan of ISIS too?

You can read the first page of this thread, I maintain that both sides suck, and will continue to maintain that my issue with the Israel Palestine war is that the ability to commit acts of violence is unbalanced to the degree that Israel has to capability of committing genocide. indeed that has been the case long before October 7th.


https://jcpa.org/article/civilian-ca...estern-forces/

The UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (UN OCHA) claims10 that from January 1, 2008, through June 24, 2023, there were 6,354 Palestinian deaths:

5,364 were killed in the Gaza Strip, of whom 1,004 belonged to “armed groups.”

957 were killed in Judea, Samaria, and east Jerusalem, of whom 16 belonged to “armed groups.”

33 were killed in Israel (within the 1949 Armistice lines), all civilians.

With respect to sexual violence.

https://web.archive.org/web/20240410...men-un-report/

https://web.archive.org/web/20240410...ations-against

https://web.archive.org/web/20240221...update=2720319

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ts-2024-03-28/

https://web.archive.org/web/20240408...naked-beatings

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

I don't hear much about IDF raping women, weird how that was a main goal of Hamas and they even video taped it. Also IDF doesn't target civilians whereas that is exactly what Hamas targets. But hey you wanna defend Hamas you do you, you a big fan of ISIS too?

You're welcome

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-relea...ations-against

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Ahh yes now you blame Isreal for the terrorist attacks they have been suffering from for like 100 years. What a shock that you don't blame Palestinians for creating Hamas and now get to suffer from the blowback of their actions. Do you enjoy seeing the death of Jews simply trying to live and survive as the only democracy in the middle east? Do you hate Jews that much?





"Nearly defeated" That's some serious brain rot.






Images of Hamas stealing food and selling it back to palestinians? How about a better one, if Isreal wanted to starve palestinains to death why send any food at all? Did the US give food to Iraqis or Syrians when they were fighting Isis? How ridiculous can you be when you expect Isreal to feed the people they are at war with and then cry when Hamas steals the food you blame Isreal.

Not my words, the IDF. In case you haven't noticed, I was mocking you.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/markin...ks-against-us/

Citing the “war’s considerable achievements,” Netanyahu specified that the IDF “has destroyed 19 of the 24 Hamas battalions,” killed, wounded or captured “a significant proportion of the Hamas terrorists,” cleaned out “Hamas terror bases at Shifa [Hospital] and many other places,” and was methodically destroying the Hamas underground tunnel network, amid other successes. (The IDF puts the number of Hamas battalions destroyed at 18.)

Do you read the news? Are you capable of reading?

We all know that Hamas isn't near being defeated. We also know that the IDF has been caught numerous times lying about pretty much everything. The theft of aid argument is so laughable, that it doesn't warrant a response.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

You're welcome

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-relea...ations-against

And here's the difference...


"They called for an independent, impartial, prompt, thorough and effective investigation into the allegations and for Israel to cooperate with such investigations.“Taken together, these alleged acts may constitute grave violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, and amount to serious crimes under international criminal law that could be prosecuted under the Rome Statute,” the experts said. “Those responsible for these apparent crimes must be held accountable and victims and their families are entitled to full redress and justice,” they added."


Read your own articles, this is the difference. For one the rape and violence is a by product that gets investigated and punished while the other is the GOAL.


YOU'RE WELCOME.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Zary's-Mustache

You're welcome

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-relea...ations-against

Ah you see, the OHCHR is the (checks notes) Human Rights Division of Hamas.... your sources are biased. Take Bibi's word for it, the IDF is the most moral army in the world. Any sexual relations they have with 14 year old women is consensual.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Ah you see, the OHCHR is the (checks notes) Human Rights Division of Hamas.... your sources are biased. Take Bibi's word for it, the IDF is the most moral army in the world. Any sexual relations they have with 14 year old women is consensual.

And when will Hamas be investigated for the rapes of Oct 7th or are you still denying that happened?

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Images of Hamas stealing food and selling it back to palestinians? How about a better one, if Isreal wanted to starve palestinains to death why send any food at all? Did the US give food to Iraqis or Syrians when they were fighting Isis? How ridiculous can you be when you expect Isreal to feed the people they are at war with and then cry when Hamas steals the food you blame Isreal.

Silly statement. Did the US block food and aid from reaching Iraqis and Syrians? Did they slaughter relief agency staff?

You and benhino still have failed to provide an image or credible source to back up your disgusting claim that

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Ahh yes Isreal provides double the food Palestine requires, it is stolen by Hamas and then Isreal gets blamed.

Please back up your claim.

[_Q_]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

And when will Hamas be investigated for the rapes of Oct 7th or are you still denying that happened?

It probably happened. Most likely not at the rate you assume it did.

Do you think Israeli "investigations" are fair and unbiased?

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Silly statement. Did the US block food and aid from reaching Iraqis and Syrians? Did they slaughter relief agency staff?

You and benhino still have failed to provide an image or credible source to back up your disgusting claim that



Please back up your claim.

Here ya go



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBjvYkNzuAA

[Harry Lime]

If I were to speculate on the future, these are the things that I think have happened, or are going to happen.

1) Most of the hostages have already been raped to death.
2) The goal of the war is to mirror the Armenian genocide, and push gaza into Syria, removing the problem in Israel permanently. Probably about 5% of the deaths of the Armenian genocide, but the result the same.
3) Anger for a few decades, and then NATO cozies up to Israel because of strategic importance.
4) Strong Israeli move to the right, led by religious fervor.
5) New Gaza butts heads with Syrian regime.

So, basically the same thing that played out in the region a century ago, only this time it's the Jewish state instead of the Islamic.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by _Q_

It probably happened. Most likely not at the rate you assume it did.

Do you think Israeli "investigations" are fair and unbiased?

You seem pretty chill with the intentional rape of civilians after what like 19 years of relative peace?



What's your pathetic excuse for Oct 7th?

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Here ya go

Where does that say

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Isreal provides double the food Palestine requires

Where is this glut of food? Why isn't the international media reporting about these excesses of trucks entering Gaza?

Please provide a credible source.