08-28-2017, 08:59 PM
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#101
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Matthew Stafford officially the highest paid player in league history;
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ic-5-year-deal
I suppose it's only going to get higher and higher for franchise QB's. It seems like he's been around forever but he's only 29 so it's not a bad deal on term but I would consider him a fringe top 10 QB. Still though in the NFL if you don't have a top 15 QB you aren't going to be a very good team on a regular basis so I understand why they overpaid him as the alternative is praying to hit one in the draft or recycling free agent QB's annually and never getting a good one like the Bears for instance.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 08-28-2017 at 09:04 PM.
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08-29-2017, 09:52 AM
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#102
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Winebar Kensington
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Why is the opener KC vs. NE?
Don't they usually match-up the Superbowl teams?
Edit: Not often actually:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...e_Kickoff_game
Last edited by troutman; 08-29-2017 at 09:59 AM.
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08-29-2017, 10:20 AM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
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League schedule is essentially determined years in advance in terms of which teams play each other. Of the 16 games on the schedule 14 have been predeterminded with only two of the games based on strength of schedule (ie where a team finished in the previous season). The actual order of the games is what varies year over year (ie when teams play each other)
http://operations.nfl.com/the-game/c...-nfl-schedule/
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08-29-2017, 10:52 AM
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#104
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troutman
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Can't really do that when AFC teams only play each NFC team once every four years.
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08-30-2017, 07:05 AM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Browns have released Joe Haden. Tried to trade him but clearly was tough moving the contract. Enjoy New England Joe.
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08-30-2017, 07:44 AM
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#106
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Browns have released Joe Haden. Tried to trade him but clearly was tough moving the contract. Enjoy New England Joe.
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They say Saints and Chiefs have most interest.
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08-30-2017, 09:29 AM
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#107
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
They say Saints and Chiefs have most interest.
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Steelers are favourites, per Schefter and others.
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08-30-2017, 11:21 AM
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#108
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
Steelers are favourites, per Schefter and others.
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Ya saw that. I guess earlier reports had Saints and Chiefs
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08-30-2017, 12:52 PM
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#109
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Chiefs traded for OL Cam Erving that Cleveland took in the first round of 2015. The Browns are certainly moving anyone and everyone. Will be interesting to see how it works out. The NFL in general is a trade averse league. Stubborn old codgers who hang onto players to their own detriment. Maybe Cleveland is onto something.
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08-30-2017, 01:02 PM
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#110
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Seems to be happening all over, lot of chatter about TJ Ward being traded or cut. I'd be bummed out but it's a cold business.
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08-30-2017, 02:24 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Ian Rapoport ✔ @RapSheet
The #Steelers are signing CB Joe Haden to a 3-year, $27m contract, source said. $7m guaranteed in year 1.
holy cow, that's a lot of cash.
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09-01-2017, 01:12 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Seahawks just traded Jermaine Kearse and picks to the Jets for Sheldon Richardson. That Seahawks front 7 looks goood
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09-01-2017, 03:23 PM
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#113
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Browns release Osweiler.
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09-02-2017, 06:52 AM
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#114
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Zuma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
Can't really do that when AFC teams only play each NFC team once every four years.
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It's weird though because the Pats actually do play Atlanta this year (week 7). I thought it was a no brainer to have them open the season but I guess the league thought differently
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09-02-2017, 07:38 AM
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#115
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
Browns release Osweiler.
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Pretty much the ultimate test of "Is Kaepernick being blacklisted" will be does Osweiler get a job before him? Because as we know Osweiler absolutely sucks, sucks far worse than Kaepernick, so if he gets a gig and Kaepernick doesn't then we know whats up without question.
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09-02-2017, 08:05 AM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Pretty much the ultimate test of "Is Kaepernick being blacklisted" will be does Osweiler get a job before him? Because as we know Osweiler absolutely sucks, sucks far worse than Kaepernick, so if he gets a gig and Kaepernick doesn't then we know whats up without question.
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don't we already know the answer to this question?
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09-02-2017, 08:08 AM
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#117
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Pretty much the ultimate test of "Is Kaepernick being blacklisted" will be does Osweiler get a job before him? Because as we know Osweiler absolutely sucks, sucks far worse than Kaepernick, so if he gets a gig and Kaepernick doesn't then we know whats up without question.
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So many variables left out of that assumption.
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09-02-2017, 08:23 AM
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#118
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
don't we already know the answer to this question?
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Of course, but this would leave no doubt. Whatever you think of either of them off the field, I know Kaepernick can complete a 5-yard out pattern. Brock? Pretty sure we saw ample evidence he cannot.
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
So many variables left out of that assumption.
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Kaepernick's worst season as a starter is still much better than Brock's season last year, and in all other measurable (like, you know, completing a 5-yard out pattern), he's better too. There's no logical football reason to give Osweiler a job ahead of Kaepernick.
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09-02-2017, 09:38 AM
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#119
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
Seems to be happening all over, lot of chatter about TJ Ward being traded or cut. I'd be bummed out but it's a cold business.
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official now.
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09-02-2017, 12:29 PM
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#120
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Kalispell, Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Kaepernick's worst season as a starter is still much better than Brock's season last year, and in all other measurable (like, you know, completing a 5-yard out pattern), he's better too. There's no logical football reason to give Osweiler a job ahead of Kaepernick.
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First of all, you're talking about a back up role. You don't judge backup QBs on the same metrics as a starter. Other factors come into play in that equation especially because you have 20X more options to fill the position.
- Advantages to signing Osweiler over Kaepernick
Salary: Osweiler makes $16M no matter what this year and the Browns are paying whatever any team that signs him doesn't. He's going to sign on the cheap if he signs. For all we know, Kaepernick's camp is trying to get him signed for $10M per.
Leadership/dedication: Osweiler has been universally praised as a teammate. Teams have legitimate reason to question whether football is Colin Kaepernick's first priority. He knowingly put his cause ahead of his team. That action and the possibility of similar actions in the future have more to say about why he's not signed than anything else. You don't have to disagree with his motivation to do what he did to question his dedication to team. This is huge.
Scheme: Anyone who used a pro-style drop back passing attack simply can't sign Kaepernick. He's incapable of running such an offense. Osweiler isn't the best fit in this type of offense either, but he has at least demonstrated an ability to run it.
Not saying that Osweiler is better than Kaepernick. What I'm saying is that he is signed before Kaepernick it is most certainly not irrefutable proof of Kaerpenick being black listed.
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