Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Young people with no life experience and brainwashed by our left-wing education system. The young generation is a sad uniformed inexperienced group, they will own nothing and be happy.

Hard to own much when the government is trying its best to ensure that young people just starting out are making $2/hour less than what everyone else is required to be paid.

What would Jesus think about that? I’m betting he’d be disappointed so that begs the question of why would anyone vote for a party that Jesus wouldn’t support?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm not convinced he is a troll, I think he's really just that stupid. But also a perfect example of the 50% or so of Albertan's who are voting for such an obvious disaster. It's fascinating to see just how ignorant they are, and how willing they are to admit it.

There is value in continually exposing the holes in their logic for all to see.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Dion

All politicians will lie or do whatever it takes to get elected.

This is just what people say to make themselves feel better for voting for liars.


There's a magnitude of difference between a politician spinning something and gaslighting. If we're saying "they all do it" it's a very shallow view of things IMO

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Biking in today, I was wondering how many days I'd survive if I put a big NDP sign on my pack. I figure the morning commute is quite enough that I'd probably make it throguh one of those since I take side streets, but biking up 10th street on the way home I'd be sitting duck. I don't think I'd last a day.

Your odds of getting taken out by a Ram truck are already quite high. I wouldn’t make it 100% over an election but your commitment is respectable and we’ll raise a glass in your honour.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

That’s what Republicans do. (I’m not sure if you’re serious.)

We don’t agree with you so we’ll strip your vote.

Well it's a good thing I am not proposing striping anyone's vote! Just rebalancing your vote weight based on your age over your lifespan, every individual still gets the same aggregate voting rights.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Your odds of getting taken out by a Ram truck are already quite high. I wouldn’t make it 100% over an election but your commitment is respectable and we’ll raise a glass in your honour.

My wife already veto'd it. I guess she likes me.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

My wife already veto'd it. I guess she likes me.

She needs your vote on May 29th. Come June you’re back on watch.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by StickMan

And a vote for NDP is a vote for Jagmeet (since the parties are integrated), just transition, anti energy, anti Alberta , pro Trudeau, support the east at the cost of the west, etc. The NDP will be the end of Alberta, how soon we forget the disaster that was notley.

Is the ANDP going to turn us into Mad Max: Fury Road? Danielle Smith and her UCP minions with their lawn sign campaign on May 1 be like:

[surferguy]

It seems like stickman is stuck in a repeater this morning

[Tron_fdc]

I actually find it funny that some people get their political talking points off stickers you would find on the back window of a lifted F350.

I can tell you with 100% accuracy who in this thread wears Pit Vipers and listens to Andrew WK.

[Looch City]

Notley is the devil reincarnated and Smith is the ONLY person that can save us.

Wake up sheeple!!1

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Notley is the devil reincarnated and Smith is the ONLY person that can save us.

Wake up sheeple!!1

But then we would be woke. It's such a conundrum!

[kirant]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Two new polls released today. ipsos has the UCP leading by 4 (48-44) but trailing slightly in Calgary.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/ucp-48-s...ad-44-over-ndp

Meanwhile Marc Henry’s ThinkHQ has the race tied at 44-44, but trailing by 7 points in “Calgary proper” (26 ridings).

https://thinkhq.ca/ndp-ucp-kick-off-...n-a-dead-heat/

I would interpret this data as more of the same: this is a very close race right now, and it really will come down to Calgary’s 26 seats and which party can win most of them.

Just to throw some numbers into this:it's certainly a repeat of the previous study by Janet Brown, which put the UCP back by ~5%. It was estimated this lead should translate to 18 Calgary seats for 38 seats assuming an Edmonton sweep (pretty likely I think). Assuming they come up with the same result at a +7 lead, I think they're within striking distance as they would likely take a few close elections due outside of Calgary and Edmonton "proper". I count 5 easy ones due to the general shift in Alberta: regaining Sherwood Park and Banff-Kananaskis, taking Lethbridge's two seats instead of a split, holding St Albert. That's 43 seats.


Either way, it looks like the winner will have a very narrow majority if the current trends hold.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Young people with no life experience and brainwashed by our left-wing education system. The young generation is a sad uniformed inexperienced group, they will own nothing and be happy.

Deals only in absolutes. Says people are brainwashed. Seems like your "life experience" has meant very little. LOL

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Damn, I haven't paid attention to the oil price in quite a while but based on gasoline still sitting at ~$1.45 I would have assumed oil was still a healthy $85 or so.

It was $75 two days ago - the market just decided we're having a recession again and bid the price down. And it was $83 in the middle of April.

Also, the US released two million barrels from their Strategic Petroleum Reserve last week and commercial inventories are coming down as well. So the recent drop appears to me to be more based on fear/emotion than supply/demand fundamentals.

Of course, if I could consistently predict oil prices I'd be typing this from my private island not my office in Calgary, so take that for what it's worth...

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by kirant

Just to throw some numbers into this:it's certainly a repeat of the previous study by Janet Brown, which put the UCP back by ~5%. It was estimated this lead should translate to 18 Calgary seats for 38 seats assuming an Edmonton sweep (pretty likely I think). Assuming they come up with the same result at a +7 lead, I think they're within striking distance as they would likely take a few close elections due outside of Calgary and Edmonton "proper". I count 5 easy ones due to the general shift in Alberta: regaining Sherwood Park and Banff-Kananaskis, taking Lethbridge's two seats instead of a split, holding St Albert. That's 43 seats.


Either way, it looks like the winner will have a very narrow majority if the current trends hold.

It's amazing how many people have told me that they think we're going to have a minority government, when that is mathematically impossible without a third party winning seats. And there is no credible third party threat for any seats this election. There's an odd number of seats and only 2 parties - one of them will get more than half. It could be a bit messy with the speaker if it's exactly 44-43 one way, but I think that's relatively unlikely.

[woob]

Originally Posted by StickMan

Young people with no life experience and brainwashed by our left-wing education system. The young generation is a sad uniformed inexperienced group, they will own nothing and be happy.

Hey StickMan - do you have any kids? If so, how are you helping to balance out their education? I firmly belive that it is vitally important for parents to be inolved in their children's learning, and I'm just curious how you're managing this so they don't contribute to this whole younger generation of sad uninformed masses? Any pointers?

[lambeburger]

No surprises on my political compass I guess.

United Conservative Party of Alberta (UCP) - 81%
Wildrose Independence Party of Alberta (WIP) - 74%
Alberta New Democratic Party (NDP) - 44%
Alberta Liberal Party (LIB) - 35%
Alberta Party (AP) - 28%
Green Party of Alberta (GRN) - 14%

Also not a fan of the overly simplistic questions, but understandable as it intends to boil it down to a two dimensional graph.

[Kickazzflames]

Originally Posted by lambeburger

No surprises on my political compass I guess.

United Conservative Party of Alberta (UCP) - 81%
Wildrose Independence Party of Alberta (WIP) - 74%
Alberta New Democratic Party (NDP) - 44%
Alberta Liberal Party (LIB) - 35%
Alberta Party (AP) - 28%
Green Party of Alberta (GRN) - 14%

Also not a fan of the overly simplistic questions, but understandable as it intends to boil it down to a two dimensional graph.

I had the same problem with the questions.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Sort of like when the NDP were in power.

I think we should give Yoho credit, he is right. This is exactly like the last time the NDP took power.

Right before the election, the PCs announce a ton of spending hoping to buy votes, then the oil prices started to dip, then the NDP was elected, then we blamed them for the spending and for the low oil prices. This is shockingly familiar.