Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Spurs

It is pretty crazy that on CP there isn't a single reasonable UCP supporter that has spoken up to give even one kind of non-ridiculous reason to vote for UCP over NDP. It shows the state of the party and its supporters that it has finally turned into what it was accused of being for so long and that is a party based solely on voting for team colors over anything else.

I am sure there are many here that are otherwise considered rational posters that are keeping quiet because they can see how easy it is to rip apart any of the flimsy reasons they came up with but you would think they would at least have something to hold on that couldn't be ripped apart easily and that clearly isn't the case.

Transplant99 and CaptainCrunch won’t bother to venture in here. It’s vastly easier to criticize when you’re cheering for the opposition. It will be interesting to see how things unfold in this thread if the NDP win.

I doubt we see a weekly event that bring shame to the province of Alberta.. but I’m sure there will be some fiscal policy things that will get heated.

[Muta]

I fully expect some of the conservative posters in the federal thread to conveniently come back into this thread and try and (re)integrate themselves if the NDP win. I’m also sure they’ll bring all the old, yawn-inducing ‘communist/socialist’ rhetoric again, ignoring the actual political position of the ANDP in 2023.

A reminder to conservatives - a vote for the UCP is a vote for the Wild Rose Party, not the PCs people remember. That party is dead. The word Conservative in that acronym is to pull at your heartstrings only.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Muta

I fully expect some of the conservative posters in the federal thread to conveniently come back into this thread and try and (re)integrate themselves if the NDP win. I’m also sure they’ll bring all the old, yawn-inducing ‘communist/socialist’ rhetoric again, ignoring the actual political position of the ANDP in 2023.

A reminder to conservatives - a vote for the UCP is a vote for the Wild Rose Party, not the PCs people remember. That party is dead. The word Conservative in that acronym is to pull at your heartstrings only.

Actually, I have been doing my own research on this, and did you know that Danielle Smith and Justin Trudeau are BOTH members of the species Homo Sapiens??

That’s the SAME species, in case anyone forgot, that is responsible for literally every atrocity in human history. Look it up. Why is no one talking about this?

Obviously, a vote for Danielle Smith and the UCP is a vote for Trudeau and Jagmeet Singh. Singh thanks you for your support.

I have many other examples to illustrate the deep and nefarious cabal between the UCP and the Trudeau liberals. I don’t feel like sharing them right now though. Do your own research, people.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Dion

All politicians will lie or do whatever it takes to get elected.

I’m not that cynical.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

This is the big thing - NDP "mistakes" tend to have a silver lining, because they are actually well intentioned.

I think this is pretty much the whole game here. I'm going to use this.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Two new polls released today. ipsos has the UCP leading by 4 (48-44) but trailing slightly in Calgary.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/ucp-48-s...ad-44-over-ndp

Meanwhile Marc Henry’s ThinkHQ has the race tied at 44-44, but trailing by 7 points in “Calgary proper” (26 ridings).

https://thinkhq.ca/ndp-ucp-kick-off-...n-a-dead-heat/

I would interpret this data as more of the same: this is a very close race right now, and it really will come down to Calgary’s 26 seats and which party can win most of them.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by troutman

I’m not that cynical.

What if you change it to "all successful politicians will lie or do whatever it takes to win"?

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Two new polls released today. ipsos has the UCP leading by 4 (48-44) but trailing slightly in Calgary.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/ucp-48-s...ad-44-over-ndp

Meanwhile Marc Henry’s ThinkHQ has the race tied at 44-44, but trailing by 7 points in “Calgary proper” (26 ridings).

https://thinkhq.ca/ndp-ucp-kick-off-...n-a-dead-heat/

I would interpret this data as more of the same: this is a very close race right now, and it really will come down to Calgary’s 26 seats and which party can win most of them.

If the NDP are actually ahead by 7% in Calgary, the UCP is done. In a close election, that’s a significant margin.

[Fuzz]

From Thinkhq

Women and younger voters show a distinct preference for the NDP, while men and those over the age of 55 offer a similar inclination toward the UCP

Old people are going to screw us again, aren't they? Yet another reason why reducing their vote as they age is a good plan. You guys will come around one day.

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1653737698027339777


Their budget is going to fall apart before we even get to an election. What's the revenue loss per dollar of oil price?

[Yoho]

Sort of like when the NDP were in power.

[Erick Estrada]

I gotta say I'm surprised by the amount of UCP signs on lawns in my area of the city. I have to admit the NDP poster of Smith's head on a weathervane is a stroke of genius. I had a good chuckle at that one.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Their budget is going to fall apart before we even get to an election. What's the revenue loss per dollar of oil price?

Damn, I haven't paid attention to the oil price in quite a while but based on gasoline still sitting at ~$1.45 I would have assumed oil was still a healthy $85 or so.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Sort of like when the NDP were in power.

The NDP didn't announce tens of billions in spending going into their election. Don't you see what is happening here? All these UCP promises are lies that they'll bail on the second they crunch the new numbers. Then they'll cut services and privatize whatever they can, stripping us of our services. Of course, I know your dumb enough to support these types of things becuase you think you deserve some sort of win over the rest of society.

[Fuzz]

Biking in today, I was wondering how many days I'd survive if I put a big NDP sign on my pack. I figure the morning commute is quite enough that I'd probably make it throguh one of those since I take side streets, but biking up 10th street on the way home I'd be sitting duck. I don't think I'd last a day.

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1653475426164158464


More indications Smith still doesn't understand how tax brackets work. Would have thought Toews could have explained it to her by now. In the past I thought maybe there was a chance she did understand them, but was just lying about it. Now I think she really doesn't get them. I wish a reporter would ask her.

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

From Thinkhq




Old people are going to screw us again, aren't they? Yet another reason why reducing their vote as they age is a good plan. You guys will come around one day.

Hey now, Im in that old guy demographic and im not voting for the crazypants liar. I even have an ndp lawn sign. First time ive ever had one for any election.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Hey now, Im in that old guy demographic and im not voting for the crazypants liar. I even have an ndp lawn sign. First time ive ever had one for any election.

Same here. In my 50's, voting NDP and have a lawn sign for the first time ever.

[Wormius]

Counted 6 NDP lawn signs to 2 UCP in our NW neighborhood. I think last election it was a more even split.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Old people are going to screw us again, aren't they? Yet another reason why reducing their vote as they age is a good plan. You guys will come around one day.

Cringe. I just hate posts like this.