You Know What Really Grinds My Gears? Now with 3x more gears...

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Engine09

When you're turning right and the person in front of you is either too stupid or too scared and waits for all traffic to pass even though the turning lane was free and clear for miles.

This is the worst. Happens to me on a daily basis. I see no logic why they need both lanes to be free when the turning lane has no cars

Makes no sense and I have no issues laying the horn on those occasions

[Sliver]

What's this "storage" business that keeps coming up as it relates to CG parkas? Are you saying there aren't enough pockets in them (there are) or are you suggesting it's difficult to find a physical location to store the jacket when you're not wearing it? Both points make no sense unless you live in a Honda Civic. Actually, if I lived in a Civic I'd definitely want a CG parka to keep me warm. But really, I hang it up in my closet when I get home and I hang it on a hook when I get to work. If it gets warm when I'm out and about I'll leave it in my car. If it is pockets you're talking about, there are literally more than I've ever used. There just isn't a storage issue here.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Sliver

...Of course it's top of the line. It's a high-end, top-quality parka made with excellent materials assembled by talented seamstresses/tailors. ...

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Sliver

What's this "storage" business that keeps coming up as it relates to CG parkas? Are you saying there aren't enough pockets in them (there are)

I'm not saying there aren't enough, but the design of the storage is at best "fine". There are compromises made for the styling - I guess I should ask which model you own? The Langford is I assume their most popular coat and it's really obvious that the pockets on that coat are not anywhere near as convenient, weatherproof or functional as they could be. Again, they're not BAD, exactly, and maybe some people prefer diagonal handwarmer pockets in the middle of the chest - I have a couple of coats that have them, again for stylistic reasons. But I don't think there's a way to defend front flap pockets on a coat from a utilitarian perspective. They're inherently less convenient to use.

[RichieRich]

Has the CG jacket thing had more messages now than the cargo shorts? That said the cargo conversation was definitely more angsty thanks to the luddites who can’t grasp their awesomosity.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

To you. And me (I don’t own one).

But don’t you own a Porsche?

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

On the Porsche front, yeah, 987.2S...

I like car analogies.

I feel like CG is like BMW - a range of models, products and price points.

Considered high end or luxurious to the majority of people. Generally good at what they do, but not necessarily the "best", whether objectively or for the price. Owners probably aren't aware of the degree others negatively perceive them

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by RichieRich

Has the CG jacket thing had more messages now than the cargo shorts? That said the cargo conversation was definitely more angsty thanks to the luddites who can’t grasp their awesomosity.

CG parka with cargo pants seems to be the solution to the storage concern.



Get the zip off version so you have cargo shorts for the summer. It's pretty much the perfect ensemble.

[RichieRich]

$40 for a 5-7lb turkey at Superstore.
In years past woulda gotten double the size for same price.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yeah I honestly thought the general badness of colonialism was pretty close to common knowledge. They’ve been making movies about it for at least 50 years lol.

And if Avatar has taught me anything, it’s that space colonialism is even worse.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by you&me

I feel like CG is like BMW - a range of models, products and price points.

The problem with the analogy is that BMW makes the M2CS. If all they made was their SUVs and the 5 series, this would be a better comparison.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Again, though, I'm talking objectively - its weather-resistant characteristics, insulation, weight, warmth, storage, and other features. If for subjective reasons you just feel like you enjoy wearing the jacket more, or if you just don't care about certain features, knock yourself out. Some people just like the feel of a heavy jacket, like they're wearing a blanket - I can't argue, whatever floats your boat.

On the Porsche front, yeah, 987.2S... it's an objectively excellent choice for a 2 seater manual sports car, price to performance, particularly because of where the engine is. There are very few alternatives that aren't front-engine. I'm not sure what other automaker you could look at to perform the same way for around $50-60k used.

You understand how justifying the Porsche as objectively excellent under a very specific collection of features and not just as “a car” is silly when you’re evaluating CG not based on the specific collection of features it provides but just as “a winter jacket” right?

On a purely functional, objective basis, owning a Porsche and justifying it as an objectively excellent choice is a lot more ridiculous than doing so for a Canada Goose jacket.

I think it’s cool if you think your Porsche is the best and Sliver thinks his Canada Goose jacket is the best. Both are really great at what they do. Doesn’t need 15 paragraphs to figure it out.

[Sliver]

I think there's one way to settle this. I'll lend you my jacket for a week and you lend me your Porsche for a week. I think it'll help if we can walk a mile in the other guy's shoes.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Lol, I have AC and I own a CG winter jacket. Even if it's two weeks a year (which it's not), it's still a sweet sweet 2 weeks where I'm comfortable because I have AC or I have a jacket to keep me nice and toasty.

And for people who think CG wearers judge non CG wearers, I honestly feel like it's the opposite. There's way more judgement (even in this thread) of people who wear CG jackets from non CG owners.

Either way, I don't care. But I find it funny how some non CG wearers work up this made up narrative in their minds of the GC wearer judging them for not having a warm jacket, when in fact, I honestly don't care what you wear or don't wear.

For me personally, no, that's not the case. I constantly get unsolicited comments about how mind blown they are I didn't get a replacement CG jacket. I'll be doing nothing and somehow these people show up and look at me like a Panda in a zoo going, "OMG, how do you stay warm wearing these brands???"

You might have a point for others though.

If price was not an issue, I snap up a CG without a second thought. But right now, I just don't need it and I'm happy with saving the extra cash. I personally don't judge people for what they like or use. I'll ask questions and discuss if there's a better option that would meet all their requirements, but I won't throw out negative unsolicited comments about others stuff.

Friends come to my place for drinks, I'll share the opened good stuff. I won't hide the good stuff and serve cheap stuff. When I go to a friend's place, if all they have is $60-80 bottle and they're apologetic because I shared bottles twice the price, I stop them and say, "You're sharing your best with me. It's equal."

I dunno. Maybe some people meet me and assume congruency for nice things across the board and wonder why I didn't do the same with a CG jacket rather than seem to have nice things for stuff I share and average things for relatively personal day to day stuff. But I inexplicably do get comments with relative frequency about my jacket even though it looks and is brand new.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I think there's one way to settle this. I'll lend you my jacket for a week and you lend me your Porsche for a week. I think it'll help if we can walk a mile in the other guy's shoes.

How many miles are you putting on his Porsche that will be equivalent to the miles he's putting into your jacket? A weeks worth of commute would be like... 100-150 miles?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

You understand how justifying the Porsche as objectively excellent under a very specific collection of features and not just as “a car” is silly when you’re evaluating CG not based on the specific collection of features it provides but just as “a winter jacket” right?

Completely disagree with you. Comparing buying a car to buying a winter coat is absurd - cars are, for a huge subset of people, enthusiast, hobbyist purchases. No one looks at a parka as an enthusiast purchase, something that is "more fun to wear" than its competitors. You might buy it for style or status, but although the 987.2S has a Porsche badge and is a nice looking car to most people's eyes, that's not the reason why anyone would want to buy it (or hardly anyone).

If the question is what jacket is going to keep you warm in the winter, there are better options than CG. If the question is what is the best sports car you can you buy for under $50k based on the commonly accepted criteria that sports car enthusiasts use to judge what makes a good sports car, there are very few other options that can compete with a 987.2 Cayman S, and if you decide that something beats it (eg, a new GR86, as in this comparison using a 987.1), that's going to come down to priorities like not caring about having 100 less horsepower, or interior technology, or how tactile and mechanical a shifter feel you like, or if you can put up with drive by wire.

I think the problem you're having here is that you're not a car enthusiast.

On a purely functional, objective basis, owning a Porsche and justifying it as an objectively excellent choice is a lot more ridiculous than doing so for a Canada Goose jacket.

Again, wrong. Look at what I was saying earlier: there is no specific circumstance or purpose you could use a CG jacket for where you can objectively say, based on its features and (non-stylistic) design, that it's the best option you could spend your money on. There absolutely is a case based on its objective characteristics - a very strong case - that the 987.2S is the best car for its purpose for the money.

[justkidding]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

This is the worst. Happens to me on a daily basis. I see no logic why they need both lanes to be free when the turning lane has no cars

Makes no sense and I have no issues laying the horn on those occasions

I almost got smoked the other day. The close lane was clear and there was traffic in the other lane. Just as I went to turn a guy changes lanes in the intersection and was speeding. I slammed my brakes and he swerved back in to his lane but it was close. Makes me want to wait now.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Completely disagree with you. Comparing buying a car to buying a winter coat is absurd - cars are, for a huge subset of people, enthusiast, hobbyist purchases. No one looks at a parka as an enthusiast purchase, something that is "more fun to wear" than its competitors. You might buy it for style or status, but although the 987.2S has a Porsche badge and is a nice looking car to most people's eyes, that's not the reason why anyone would want to buy it (or hardly anyone).

If the question is what jacket is going to keep you warm in the winter, there are better options than CG. If the question is what is the best sports car you can you buy for under $50k based on the commonly accepted criteria that sports car enthusiasts use to judge what makes a good sports car, there are very few other options that can compete with a 987.2 Cayman S, and if you decide that something beats it (eg, a new GR86, as in this comparison using a 987.1), that's going to come down to priorities like not caring about having 100 less horsepower, or interior technology, or how tactile and mechanical a shifter feel you like, or if you can put up with drive by wire.

I think the problem you're having here is that you're not a car enthusiast.

Again, wrong. Look at what I was saying earlier: there is no specific circumstance or purpose you could use a CG jacket for where you can objectively say, based on its features and (non-stylistic) design, that it's the best option you could spend your money on. There absolutely is a case based on its objective characteristics - a very strong case - that the 987.2S is the best car for its purpose for the money.

I think the problem you’re having is you’re not a clothing enthusiast.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

The problem with the analogy is that BMW makes the M2CS. If all they made was their SUVs and the 5 series, this would be a better comparison.

Does CG not make an M2CS equivalent?

I don't own a CG (I'm more of a Porsche guy ), but does CG not make an M2CS equivalent? That's a pretty niche example, while obviously the majority of their products are pretty vanilia - if not competent - 3s, 5s and X5 equivalents... CG does nothing that is more, um, proficient?

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by justkidding

I almost got smoked the other day. The close lane was clear and there was traffic in the other lane. Just as I went to turn a guy changes lanes in the intersection and was speeding. I slammed my brakes and he swerved back in to his lane but it was close. Makes me want to wait now.

That's another gear grinder. When I was learning to drive, my parents and the instructor I took driver's ed from all pounded it into me constantly. NEVER change lanes going through an intersection. And yet I see it happen so many times.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think the problem you’re having is you’re not a clothing enthusiast.

I don't think there is such a thing, unless you're talking about a fashion enthusiast. In that realm, Canada Goose is not highly thought of.... you're looking at Jil Sander or JuunJ or Nigel Cabourn or Rick Owens. It's a totally different ball game if you're into that stuff - CG is not wearable art in any sense. Talking to people who live in that world about Canada Goose would be like trying to convince a bunch of film snobs that Marvel movies are great cinema.

The reality is that for something like a technical coat for cold weather, you are either looking at a general purpose coat or you're an enthusiast of a particular sport (say, mountaineering), in which case you are looking at the objective characteristics of the item (weight, breathability, mobility, storage design, whether the materials can stand up to the duress of the sport) because the clothing itself isn't what makes you an enthusiast of the thing you're an enthusiast about, it's merely an aid. When it comes to cars, the car is the very thing you're enjoying. That's why it's a bad comparison. Well, one reason, anyway.

I mean it sounds like you're arguing that my car is objectively not the right car if you had to buy one car to do absolutely everything. That's true. But if you are going to buy one car for the specific purpose of being a car enthusiast's weekend driving machine, you'd have a hard time finding a better option for the price. For the CG jacket, there is no "specific thing" for it to do, no specific area where you would want it to perform, where you'd have a hard time finding a better option for the price - or at all, for that matter.

Originally Posted by you&me

Does CG not make an M2CS equivalent?

I don't think so. I think they make a bomber, a bunch of parkas and a few puffys.