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[Dion]

100 days after the election, Kari Lake loses again. What a surprise

The verdict is in. Kari Lake lost. Again.

Is there anybody left on the planet that is surprised by this?

The Arizona Court of Appeals on Thursday rejected every one of her claims of the many ways in which she was robbed in last year’s election.

“The evidence presented to the superior court ultimately supports the court’s conclusion that voters were able to cast their ballots, that votes were counted correctly, and that no other basis justifies setting aside the election results,” Judge Kent Cattani wrote, in affirming that Gov. Katie Hobbs is, in fact, GOV. Katie Hobbs.

In a 12-page ruling issued late Thursday, the Court of Appeals agreed with Thompson on every point.

For example, on Lake’s claim that a plot was afoot to shrink ballots or otherwise make them unreadable to tabulators:

“Lake presented no evidence that voters whose ballots were unreadable by on-site tabulators were not able to vote,” Judge Cattani wrote. “To the contrary, Lake’s cybersecurity expert confirmed that any misconfigured ballots (or ballots that on-site tabulators could not read for other reasons) could be submitted physically through secure “Door 3,” duplicated onto a readable ballot by a bipartisan board at Maricopa County’s central tabulation facility, and ultimately counted.”

On her claim that long lines on Election Day resulted in tens of thousands of her voters not casting a ballot:

“But Lake’s only purported evidence that these issues had any potential effect on election results was, quite simply, sheer speculation," he wrote.

And on her claim that Maricopa County slipped in 25,000 extra ballots because an election night estimate of “over 275,000” or “275,000+" early ballots dropped off on Election Day differed from the precise count of 291,890 given once all the ballots were scanned.

"Questionable mathematics aside, Lake does not explain (or offer any legal basis) for how the difference between an initial estimate and a final, precise figure invalidates any vote," he wrote.

And so, Lake lost. Again.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...t/69913063007/

[MRCboicgy]

The Onion with one of its finest pieces yet https://www.theonion.com/it-is-journ...-of-1850126997

Good journalism is about finding those stories, even when they don’t exist. It’s about asking the tough questions and ignoring the answers you don’t like, then offering misleading evidence in service of preordained editorial conclusions. In our case, endangering trans people is the lodestar that shapes our coverage. Frankly, if our work isn’t putting trans people further at risk of trauma and violence, we consider it a failure.

We remain dedicated to finding the angles that best frame the basic rights of the gender-nonconforming as up for debate, and we will use these same angles over and over again in hopes that this repetition makes them suffer. As journalists, it is our obligation to entertain any and all pseudoscience that gives bigotry an intellectual veneer.

Instead, we will use flawed data and spurious logic to repeatedly write the same hand-wringing arguments asking whether there are suddenly too many trans people around. Journalistic integrity demands nothing less

And

For more evidence of our time-honored journalistic commitment to endangering lives, please see our previous coverage of gay people, immigrants, Black people, and women.

[Dion]

Rupert Murdoch suggested Fox News hosts Carlson, Hannity and Ingraham go on air and say Joe Biden had won 2020 election, court filing says

Rupert Murdoch suggested three Fox News hosts could go on air and declare Biden the winner in 2020.

Messages between Fox News top brass suggest they knew Trump lost, but still aired conspiracy theories.

The filing, part of Dominion's defamation lawsuit, reveals the inner-workings of Fox post-election.

Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of Fox Corporation, once suggested that Fox News hosts Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, and Laura Ingraham could go on air and declare that Joe Biden won the 2020 presidential election.

The conversations between Fox News chiefs were revealed in a 200-page filing on Thursday by Dominion Voting Systems lawyers as part of their defamation lawsuit against the network.

On January 5, 2021, Murdoch emailed Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott: "It's been suggested our prime time three should independently or together say something like 'the election is over, and Joe Biden won.'"

He said that such a statement "would go a long way to stop the Trump myth that the election was stolen."

Scott then forwarded Murdoch's suggestion to Meade Cooper, the primetime programming SVP. He wrote: "I told Rupert that privately they are all there — we need to be careful about using the shows and pissing off the viewers but they know how to navigate."

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/rupert-mur...141239841.html

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I really wish everybody would stop calling it Fox News.

Just call it Fox. Or Fox Entertainment. Or Fox Propaganda.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I really wish everybody would stop calling it Fox News.

Just call it Fox. Or Fox Entertainment. Or Fox Propaganda.

'Mein Fox' ?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I really wish everybody would stop calling it Fox News.

Just call it Fox. Or Fox Entertainment. Or Fox Propaganda.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I really wish everybody would stop calling it Fox News.

Just call it Fox. Or Fox Entertainment. Or Fox Propaganda.

I agree that there is a mountain of garbage on Fox News channel with the likes of the usual suspects like Tucker Carlson , Laura Ingraham etc. The actual news portion of Fox like Bret Baier etc is usually straight up news reporting and reporting on some issues that are of greater interest to Conservative audiences.

As pretty much the only mainstream, large volume network channel that caters to a more conservative group, they have that avenue covered well. That also kind of holds true for Fox Business Network

The likes of MSNBC, CNN etc are always trying to do some of the same things but from a more liberal or progressive perspective.

If you ever want to see just how much garbage is on American TV and how poorly that market is served by their respective mainstream media channels listed above, just go to PBS News Hour and see what a real, boring broadcast really should be. They do journalism , they do balance, they try and present both sides of the argument and the debate. It really is shocking the difference.

The truth of the matter is, it's also boring cause it doesn't feed into a lot of people's hyper loop. No foaming at the mouth coverage against the Democrats or the Republicans. They will provide worldclass coverage of international events as opposed to just being focused on American politics all the time. It's probably why a lot of their ratings aren't very strong, can't get people angry

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I agree that there is a mountain of garbage on Fox News channel with the likes of the usual suspects like Tucker Carlson , Laura Ingraham etc. The actual news portion of Fox like Bret Baier etc is usually straight up news reporting and reporting on some issues that are of greater interest to Conservative audiences.

As pretty much the only mainstream, large volume network channel that caters to a more conservative group, they have that avenue covered well. That also kind of holds true for Fox Business Network

The likes of MSNBC, CNN etc are always trying to do some of the same things but from a more liberal or progressive perspective.

If you ever want to see just how much garbage is on American TV and how poorly that market is served by their respective mainstream media channels listed above, just go to PBS News Hour and see what a real, boring broadcast really should be. They do journalism , they do balance, they try and present both sides of the argument and the debate. It really is shocking the difference.

The truth of the matter is, it's also boring cause it doesn't feed into a lot of people's hyper loop. No foaming at the mouth coverage against the Democrats or the Republicans. They will provide worldclass coverage of international events as opposed to just being focused on American politics all the time. It's probably why a lot of their ratings aren't very strong, can't get people angry

Like what?

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Like what?

Like just regular day to day news reporting and reporting on what has happened in America. Anchors/Reporters like Bret Bair on Fox will usually report on stories and news. Ex: "In Colorado today, there was a school shooting that killed 6 people and injured 4 others. The gunmen, 19 year old Joe Cruz has been arrested and charged"

That type of reporting. The prime time money making machines like Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingraham and others will than take the pedal to the medal. The opinion pieces will than start about gun rights, 2nd amendment, illegal immigration and on and on etc.

People will primarily watch on Prime Time and listen most of the garbage that is being presented by the hosts listed above. Do they present some things that are value or shed light on certain causes and newsworthy events? Sure but there is a whole host of garbage on their shows too.

The same scenario is happening at other networks like CNN, MSNBC etc. They have their news people and their opinion shows on prime time.

The lines are blurred between facts, news and opinion and there is very little pushback. It's all business, brand, profits and making everybody in the company look good.

We are seeing more and more of this garbage in the sports world as well with more and more teams having a lot more control over messaging on their own platforms. Every sports team is hyping up their loser franchise, their bum players, their prospects and amazing overall management. We don't have that same level of independent reporting and pushback that was common at one point.

I stand by my statement that if people watched a news program like PBS News Hour, they would be shocked at how little tension, how much factual and non bias reporting there is and how balanced the presentation would be. They just have a different business model than other networks

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I really wish everybody would stop calling it Fox News.

Just call it Fox. Or Fox Entertainment. Or Fox Propaganda.

Faux News is perfect

[troutman]

Lawsuit filing shows Fox hosts didn’t believe election fraud lies they pushed on TV

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/la...y-pushed-on-tv

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Like what?

CNN and MSNBC are just establishment outlets. They have the same editorial issues as Fox, but at least their selective narrative isn't supporting fascism.

[rubecube]

God, what a useless tit.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1627547546787672064

[GGG]

Originally Posted by rubecube

God, what a useless tit.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1627547546787672064

The article appears to suggest he will be asking congress for legislation to increase fines and setting new standards which he expects will be opposed by industry.

Buttigieg in a letter to Norfolk Southern Chief Executive Alan Shaw said he would also urge Congress to raise the cap on fines against railroads for violating safety regulations "to ensure their deterrent effect is commensurate with the economic proportions of today's large railroad companies."

Buttigieg said he would soon outline specific safety improvements railroads should take immediately. He harshly criticized them for lobbying against steps "intended to improve rail safety and to help keep Americans safe."

I mean what do you object to here

[Lanny_McDonald]

Deregulation is the type of stuff that leads to accidents like this. Conservatives are such twits when they fail to connect the dots here.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Deregulation is the type of stuff that leads to accidents like this. Conservatives are such twits when they fail to connect the dots here.

Oh they do connect the dots, they just don't care. As long as it doesn't affect them personally, they're fine with accepting more donations in exchange for lives

[TheIronMaiden]

As long as lobby groups, err I mean voting citizens are making money, no politician will care about the environmental costs of deregulation.

[White Out 403]

watching Don Lemon be knifed by his own woke mob is so amazing and beautiful to watch.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Oh they do connect the dots, they just don't care. As long as it doesn't affect them personally, they're fine with accepting more donations in exchange for lives

It’s a whole club that suits the needs of people who don’t give a #### what happens to anything once they die. Live hard and fast and #### the world.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by White Power Out 403

watching Don Lemon be knifed by his own woke mob is so amazing and beautiful to watch.

Using "woke mob" unironically is a tell