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Old 04-16-2025, 01:43 AM   #121
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94-96 points is playoffs range, its a bad beat there will be worse teams in the playoffs
If that's Columbus, I'll allow it.
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Old 04-16-2025, 03:12 AM   #122
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If that's Columbus, I'll allow it.

Monahan's having an amazing year. I'd love to see him play some playoff games. I'm still a fan of Gudbranson too.
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10-2-3 in the last 15 games. But sure
For those lamenting the Blues "flukey" 12-0 but not discounting the Flames 10-2-3 run, which one was more lucky vs. the other?

Blues 12-0 + 29 goal differential
Flames 10-2-3 +6 goal differential

Blues were winning with ease, the Flames were eeking out wins.

There's a lot to be proud about for our Flames, and a lot to complain about, but lamenting the Blues being on some lucky run was not one of them.
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Woo hoo! Way to go, Flames

Got a lot more than I expected to see out of them this season. Especially with Wolf.

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Old 04-16-2025, 06:43 AM   #125
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We are all Jackets fans now right?
Except for Habernac
Nah, I want both of them to lose while the Flames win game 82 just for thw sheer absurdity of a team making the playoffs in the east with under 90 points while 96 doesn't get you in in the west.
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Old 04-16-2025, 06:45 AM   #126
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For those lamenting the Blues "flukey" 12-0 but not discounting the Flames 10-2-3 run, which one was more lucky vs. the other?

Blues 12-0 + 29 goal differential
Flames 10-2-3 +6 goal differential

Blues were winning with ease, the Flames were eeking out wins.

There's a lot to be proud about for our Flames, and a lot to complain about, but lamenting the Blues being on some lucky run was not one of them.
Considering luck doesn’t exist this is a really pointless, silly argument to try to make.

Regardless of goal differential, it’s just far more improbable that a team with a 31-28-7 record would go 12-0 than it is for a team with a 30-25-11 record to go 7-2-3, neither with any meaningful changes to the roster.

Also, people can lament whatever they want.
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Old 04-16-2025, 07:10 AM   #127
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You DO NOT want that this year.
Why not?
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Old 04-16-2025, 07:47 AM   #128
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Why not?
Isn't next year a stronger draft and you can't win it twice in a row.
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Old 04-16-2025, 07:53 AM   #129
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His post game comments pretty much describe the heart and drive of this team. They need to give him the "C" next season.
Great to have the leadership Weegar appears to bring, but this is ridiculous IMO. This same team that has the heart and drive you describe, is captained by a great person in backland. He deserves credit for his leadership in bringing this group so closely together. There is absolutely zero reason to take his C away even if he is going to be a 4th line C next season.
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Old 04-16-2025, 07:57 AM   #130
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For those lamenting the Blues "flukey" 12-0 but not discounting the Flames 10-2-3 run, which one was more lucky vs. the other?

Blues 12-0 + 29 goal differential
Flames 10-2-3 +6 goal differential

Blues were winning with ease, the Flames were eeking out wins.

There's a lot to be proud about for our Flames, and a lot to complain about, but lamenting the Blues being on some lucky run was not one of them.
Totally agree, though there is some argument to the Blues' streak being more "lucky" or "flukey" (or whatever you want to call it) than the Flames if you look at PDO over the last 20 games:

Blues: 1.03 (1.07 during their 12 game win streak)
Flames: 0.98 (0.97 during the Blue's win streak)

Not a perfect measure, for sure, but does seem to indicate the Blues had more things go right for them over the last 20 games and significantly more over their 12 game win streak.
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Old 04-16-2025, 07:57 AM   #131
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Isn't next year a stronger draft and you can't win it twice in a row.
They are very unlikely to win either so might as well take whatever win is given to you.
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Isn't next year a stronger draft and you can't win it twice in a row.
2026 is supposed to be stronger for sure, and deeper. That said you can win the lottery 2 times in any 5 year span. 2 times in a row is possible
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Going into the season all I hoped for was to be entertained. It was a tough end, but there's still plenty to be happy with.

Starting the third period two goals down and knowing their playoff hopes are over, yet they still pull off the comeback - this team truly can NEVER SAY DIE!


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2026 is supposed to be stronger for sure, and deeper. That said you can win the lottery 2 times in any 5 year span. 2 times in a row is possible
Two is enough. McKenna and Dupont and I’m good.
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Isn't next year a stronger draft and you can't win it twice in a row.
A team cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year span (starting from 2022)
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2026 is supposed to be stronger for sure, and deeper. That said you can win the lottery 2 times in any 5 year span. 2 times in a row is possible

Okay, didn't know that, thanks.
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A team cannot win the lottery more than twice in a five-year span (starting from 2022)
We are going to get McKenna with our Vegas pick next year.
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Looking back at just how much went wrong for the Flames here.

Look at the Wild in just the last two weeks:

@Devils - Tie it with 2:08 left to go to OT
@Rangers - Tie it up 1 minute into the 3rd to go to OT
Stars - Tie it with 7 minutes left in the third, win on PP in OT
Sharks - Win in OT 8-7 with 3 PP goals in the 2nd
@Canucks - Tie it with 7 minutes left, win in OT
Ducks - Tie it with 30 seconds left, win in OT

And of course the Blues 12 game win streak.

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Old 04-16-2025, 11:24 AM   #139
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For those lamenting the Blues "flukey" 12-0 but not discounting the Flames 10-2-3 run, which one was more lucky vs. the other?

Blues 12-0 + 29 goal differential
Flames 10-2-3 +6 goal differential

Blues were winning with ease, the Flames were eeking out wins.

There's a lot to be proud about for our Flames, and a lot to complain about, but lamenting the Blues being on some lucky run was not one of them.
Even despite the goal differential, I would still say that St. Louis was far luckier over that stretch than the Flames

Corsi For %
Flames 55.42 (4th)
Blues 45.85 (28th)

xGF%
Flames 55.73 (5th)
Blues 44.59 (27th)

High Danger Chances For %
Flames 56.32 (6th)
Blues 41.55 (29th)

High Danger Shooting Percentage
Flames 15.31 (30th)
Blues 31.15 (2nd)

Save Percentage
Flames 90.05 (19th)
Blues 92.58 (5th)

It looks to me like the Blues were getting outplayed and outchanced by wide margins even during their hottest stretch of the season and their post Four nation's goaltending combined with absurd finishing resulted in a great, but unsustainable record.

The Flames aren't skilled enough and you can see that despite controlling games they weren't able to easily win those games. So there is work to do, but they were playing really well to close out the season and deserved their record.
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Looking back at just how much went wrong for the Flames here.

Look at the Wild in just the last two weeks:

@Devils - Tie it with 2:08 left to go to OT
@Rangers - Tie it up 1 minute into the 3rd to go to OT
Stars - Tie it with 7 minutes left in the third, win on PP in OT
Sharks - Win in OT 8-7 with 3 PP goals in the 2nd
@Canucks - Tie it with 7 minutes left, win in OT
Ducks - Tie it with 30 seconds left, win in OT

And of course the Blues 12 game win streak.
Yeah, but looking at it from the other end, things went really badly for the Wild. Lost their star player to a weird injury for half the season when he was driving the offense. Similarly lost their top center (eriksson ek) for most of the season. Top defensive defenseman out almost half the season. Wheels fell off Fleury and Wallstedt wasn't ready so they had to rely on a taped together Filip Gustavsson... If we're going to whinge about our "bad luck" we should also consider that it was because of Minny's bad luck that we were even in the hunt.
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