Janko Troubles

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Yen Man

Guy looks lazy out there, and deserves a couple games in the press box. Too soft on plays, and loses board battles to easily. With his size, he should be harder to take off the puck.

Trouble is, he was put up there already and didn't have a Frolik-like reaction when he was given another shot. Disappointing, really.

[Otto-matic]

At this point I'd rather see Janko down in the AHL. Doesn't help his confidence when he's stapled to the bench for the entire 3rd period. Let him get rolling again and scoring some goals and bring him up later on.

[Bingo]

The one thing in his favour is the fact that he's only sat out 3 games compared to Hathaway (4) and Czarnik (7). (left shot vs right show sure, but there are options)

They obviously see something in him or they wouldn't be walking him out every night.

[Oling_Roachinen]

I'm beginning to think he won't be the best player from the 2012 draft.

Oh, well still better than the Oiler's first overall that year.

[Kovaz]

He needs to up the pace he plays at and especially thinks at. Lots of turnovers and missed opportunities from taking too long to decide what to do. Even going back to when he was a prospect, IIRC that was the biggest thing he needed to improve to get to an NHL level. I think it's getting exposed now under Peters because our pace as a team is so much higher than under Gulutzan.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The one thing in his favour is the fact that he's only sat out 3 games compared to Hathaway (4) and Czarnik (7). (left shot vs right show sure, but there are options)

They obviously see something in him or they wouldn't be walking him out every night.

He's the best fit for 4th line c, imo, the scratches say a lot.

Conceivably it's easier to scratch Hathaway and czarnik than janko.

I know I/we have remarked previously about this, but I think it is extremely notable that czarnik isn't getting reps.

Janko, Frolik, Hathaway, Andersson have all been seemingly given an opportunity to get back in a game to prove their stuff.

Czarnik is either being held to a much tougher standard, is banged up, or something more substantial is going on behind th scenes to keep him out of the lineup.

It will be interesting to see the minutes and situations he gets when he is next in the lineup.

[TheIronMaiden]

At moments this season he has had strong play. This gives me hope that he will be a contributor to the Flames success this year. The season is young still, he doesn't need to be a 17 goal scorer every year, a 30 point season from Janko would look good on this team.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

He's the best fit for 4th line c, imo, the scratches say a lot.

Conceivably it's easier to scratch Hathaway and czarnik than janko.

I know I/we have remarked previously about this, but I think it is extremely notable that czarnik isn't getting reps.

Janko, Frolik, Hathaway, Andersson have all been seemingly given an opportunity to get back in a game to prove their stuff.

Czarnik is either being held to a much tougher standard, is banged up, or something more substantial is going on behind th scenes to keep him out of the lineup.

It will be interesting to see the minutes and situations he gets when he is next in the lineup.

Different players have different check marks too.

They like Hathaways snarl so as long as he's pissy he seems to stay in. Czarnik hasn't created a lot when he's been in, his underlying numbers are good but he played with Tkachuk and Backlund so that probably doesn't say a lot, and I guess they're aware of that.

Looks like he's in tonight though. Will be interesting to see what he does.

[Huntingwhale]

Sophomore slump. But also I thought his 17 goal season was a bit overblown last season. Take away the final 4 goal game, and suddenly 13 goals isn't exactly mind blowing. I think that final 4 goal game got him a bit of an extra payday. Truthfully $1.675 million cap hit was more then what I expected. l'm not saying he's complacent because of that. But history shows us that players who might get a bit of an over-payment often fail to live up to it.

I think the team thought he might take a step forward. But sophomore slumps are very real and we've been spoiled recently with good players who haven't gone through one themselves. Monahan, Tkachuk, Gaudreau and Ferland for example. All had better #2 seasons. Sometimes we forget just how hard of a league it is to play in, especially when you're running on adrenaline and fighting for a roster spot as a rookie. Janko's spot was pretty much guaranteed to him this season so maybe mentally he didn't need to battle as hard as he did last season.

Not at all worried about him though. He's still only in his 2nd season and not everyone is linear in progression. He'll never be the #1C Feaster claimed him to be. But the team doesn't need him to be.

[Monahan For Mayor]

He's bringing nothing to the line up right now. Which is dissapointing because he has the tools. I'm hoping Czarnik comes out flying tonight.

[Jeff Lebowski]

Wow lots of posters jumping all over the kid, not that his play hasn’t invited criticism. I have not been impressed with his ‘jam’ so far but am a big believer in him.

From my eye test I see a guy who needs to find a way to make an impact when his finesse or skill game isn’t on. I agree that if he tightens up defensively -be harder to play against the chances will come

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The one thing in his favour is the fact that he's only sat out 3 games compared to Hathaway (4) and Czarnik (7). (left shot vs right show sure, but there are options)

They obviously see something in him or they wouldn't be walking him out every night.

For one thing, he's a C. Unless you play Bennett or Lindholm at centre, or maybe Dube, Jankowski has to slot in. Czarnik and Hathaway aren't really his competition as long as he's slotted as a centre.

[sa226]

If I remember correctly, the knock on him in the AHL was consistency. He has all of the ability to be a really good player, but he needs to learn that to be an effective pro, he needs to bring it every night.

We see flashes every once in awhile, but too often he is invisible. I think last year he benefited a lot from bulldog Bennett puck retrieval. I have hope that he's still going to be something.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

At this point I'd rather see Janko down in the AHL. Doesn't help his confidence when he's stapled to the bench for the entire 3rd period. Let him get rolling again and scoring some goals and bring him up later on.

He wouldn't pass waivers.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Mark Jankowski is no Derek Ryan, that is for sure. /snark

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

He'd have to go on waivers and I'm guessing someone would pick him up for free. Perhaps he should start the transition to the wing? He's below average on the dot (47-48%) and it might force him to use his size and be a little more engaged by playing a more direct, physical game...

I thought he had one more season of waiver eligibility so yeah he probably gets picked up. If he played up to his size at least he would be more effective when he's not scoring but it's seems he has a little Joe Colborne in him.

[sundown]

I think his production is partly due to ice time. Gully would continue to roll 4 lines last year regardless of the score. This year Janko is a casualty of Peters shortening the bench when the team has been behind going into the third period. If the flames stop playing from behind so often I think we would see his ice time and production go up.

[Johnhitbox]

I Just keep forgetting he's even playing.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by devo22

a combination of a sophomore slump, team depth and Derek Ryan being a coaches favourite, I guess. He'll turn it around, the talent is there.

....and overly high expectations for guy that looks more like bottom 6 than middle 6. I don't think the talent is there to be much more, but that's just me. NHLer for sure. But i don't see him being much beyond a 35 point guy.

[Matata]

He probably felt like he arrived last season and took his foot off the gas a bit and now has trouble getting back into the groove. I still think he has it in him to have a 25g/25a season someday.