[GDT] Flames @ Red Wings, 5:30 PM MST. Sportsnet West, Fan 960

[Muta]

I'd actually feel more comfortable with Gillies in net than Lack.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Usually go to games in Detroit but not this one. I have a bigger dilemma, my teenage son who is a fair weather Flames fan wants me to watch the game with him tonight. The Flames are 0-14 when we watch the game together. Coincidence or do I make an excuse?

Do it. Although you'll need to sacrifice a couple dozen chicken wings beforehand. And maybe some of Jobu's rum to wash it down.

[dissentowner]

Ok, well if we lose you can blame me.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Do it. Although you'll need to sacrifice a couple dozen chicken wings beforehand. And maybe some of Jobu's rum to wash it down.

Wings and Nachos. Have some pictures of cars on standby. Good luck.

[Poe969]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Ok, well if we lose you can blame me.

You became the scapegoat the moment you told us about it.

[HalifaxDrunk]

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'd actually feel more comfortable with Gillies in net than Lack.

I'm trying to not feel that way. I know Lack has been working crazy hard in practices since he arrived and I think he's likely more capable than Gillies at routinely stopping NHL pucks.

Lack doesn't reek confidence, but you've gotta think management and coaching had a plan in mind to get Lack going again like he was in Vancouver.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Muta

I'd actually feel more comfortable with Gillies in net than Lack.

I don't understand why you would feel more comfortable with a goalie who has played a grand total of one NHL game. I understand why some are not especially confident in Eddie Lack, but he is a bona fide NHL goalie with a winning record through over 100 NHL starts.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

...Lack doesn't reek confidence...

This is anecdotal nonsense.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

I'm trying to not feel that way. I know Lack has been working crazy hard in practices since he arrived and I think he's likely more capable than Gillies at routinely stopping NHL pucks.

Lack doesn't reek confidence, but you've gotta think management and coaching had a plan in mind to get Lack going again like he was in Vancouver.

Lack didn't have a bad goal last game either. He let two goals in, but one was a snipe from one of the NHL's most elite shooters and the other was a lucky bounce off Ferland's stick. As others have mentioned, the Flames actually improved their play once Eddie slotted in.

I definitely agree that confidence is a huge factor, but after getting his first recorded win in Flames silks, after weeks of being cold with very little in terms of mental preparation, should allow him to relax a bit. If he had let in a bad goal last game, I think it'd be 50/50 between him and Jon, but he held the fort and even made a game changing save after being Bronx cheered. That speaks of character to me.

[Iggy3x]

Originally Posted by bomber317

In Hockey Card format -

Is that a Jagr rookie card? Nice work!

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Usually go to games in Detroit but not this one. I have a bigger dilemma, my teenage son who is a fair weather Flames fan wants me to watch the game with him tonight. The Flames are 0-14 when we watch the game together. Coincidence or do I make an excuse?

Watch the game!! It’s ur boy!! They will win tonight - this is the year curses are made to break!

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

This is anecdotal nonsense.

This is inflammatory and adds nothing to the discussion. It's also wrong.

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Lack has a 0.857 SV% this year. That's good for 66th out of 71 goalies that have started a game this year.

Lack has a 3.76 GGA this year. That's good for 60th out of 71.

That reeks confidence to you TC? That looks like a goalie on top of his game?

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It's also not anecdotal that the Flames had a plan to revert Lack's game back to the one he had success with in Vancouver and move him away from how he was asked to play in Carolina. That's a well-documented fact.

But again I say, I would trust Lack, an NHL goalie with a 139 games played and regular practices with an NHL club, over a call-up with 1 start who just went to his friends funeral and is probably feeling a million ways.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Watch the game!! It’s ur boy!! They will win tonight - this is the year curses are made to break!

Yeah time with my teenager pretty much trumps everything else. If he wants to watch the game with you that is one hell of an easy decision. And you will both get to enjoy a Flames win!

[jlh2640]

Big game for Lack imo

[midniteowl]

Will I see a hat tricks from this line tonight?








I think I will!!!

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Lack has a 0.857 SV% this year. That's good for 66th out of 71 goalies that have started a game this year.

Lack has a 3.76 GGA this year. That's good for 60th out of 71.

But again I say, I would trust Lack, an NHL goalie with a 139 games played and regular practices with an NHL club, over a call-up with 1 start who just went to his friends funeral and is probably feeling a million ways.

Come on man.... those stats are pretty ugly but he's played 1 2/3 games lol.

[Robbob]

But he made the stop he had to make for the club. As a back up the only stats that matter are W's

[Fan in Exile]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

In their extremely small NHL sample size last year, Gillies was better. And, as far as AHL play goes, their numbers are pretty similar so you have to look at quality of competition, and what Pascall, Huska and Zulianello have to say.

I put no stock in "the team plays more calmly in front of X". People said that about Ramo and about Johnson. But if that was a factor, I'd say the team played better in front of Lack, especially when he first came into the game, than in front of Smith last game.

And knowledgeable hockey people never get that stuff completely wrong, do they? I mean Toskala was clearly the better prospect than Kipper.

I hope Gillies turns out great. But he consistently gets more opportunities from the organization despite Rittich putting up better numbers over a prolonged period. That deserves to be questioned.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

This is inflammatory and adds nothing to the discussion.

With how your original post was framed, there was no indication whatsoever as to your measure of Lack's sense of confidence. Of course, it is anecdotal when not couched in a clearly defined and transparent set of parameters.

Lack has a 0.857 SV% this year. That's good for 66th out of 71 goalies that have started a game this year.

Lack has a 3.76 GGA this year. That's good for 60th out of 71.

That reeks confidence to you TC? That looks like a goalie on top of his game?

After one full game a two periods of work? It doesn't look like anything. There are any number of reasons to explain two individual performances, and Lack's marginal statistics do not in any way obviously correlate to his own self awareness or perception. Results don't necessarily have anything to do with a player's confidence—how can any of us know about how confident Lack feels today without having this discussion with him?

It's also not anecdotal that the Flames had a plan to revert Lack's game back to the one he had success with in Vancouver and move him away from how he was asked to play in Carolina. That's a well-documented fact.

Okay? I am not sure what that has to do with Lack's confidence, except I would imagine he is more confident playing the position the way he has had success doing so in the past.

Look, when a poster talks about persona, or character, or emotive traits I think it is fair to say that readers will rightly interpret all of this as anecdotal. As far as I am concerned, these sorts of arm-chair psychoanalysis are completely invalid, and yes, under these conditions qualify as "nonsense."

*EDIT*

Oh, hey! I just heard Derek Wills on the radio reporting that in conversation with Eddie Lack he has talked about how confident he is feeling right now.