06-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#221
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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3rd NHL team for Dougie at the age of 25. There has to be something behind that.
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06-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I think when you make as many big moves as Treliving has since becoming GM of the Flames you are going to win some of them and lose some of them. Brad lost last year's trade with the Islanders and this one doesn't look good on paper. Hopefully these guys bring more to the table than their stats would indicate.
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06-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#223
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First Line Centre
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Remove the emotion.
We traded Hamilton (former 1st), Ferland (5th) and Fox (3rd) for two former 5th overall picks. Hanafin is no Slouch and Lindholm gives us that RH shot in top 6.
I will never listen to fox on the run the same again 
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06-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#224
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Really needed to maximize value on Dougie, but maybe there is more wrong there than rumoured, don't like losing Fox either but I can't see Calgary letting him go without knowing they couldn't sign him. Team needed a shake up, we got it, I sure hope the new pieces excel for us.
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06-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#225
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Ok. Fire Treliving. He just downgraded both the offence and the defence, and threw away a top prospect to boot.
Just terrible.
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How's that?
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06-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#226
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I believe in the Jays.
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Jesus... we got fleeced hard. The difference between Lindholm and Ferland does not equal the difference between Dougie and Hanifin. Fox added in... brutal.
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06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#227
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I'm willing to bet the extensions for both Lindholm & Hanifin end up looking pretty good. Thinking those terms played a role in the stacking of the deal.
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06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#228
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Red Deer
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If Lindholm becomes a 60 point guy, then this trade will be ok
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06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#229
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Peters better be right about these 2 guys. Surprised Derek Ryan not included. I like how we sold high on Ferland. I didn't like giving away Fox. We could not sign Hickey and Fox but we picked 2 more US players in this draft???
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06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#230
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First Line Centre
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I wonder if Bill Peters had a big say in this trade
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06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#231
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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Looks like LeBrun really does have the pulse of what Treliving is going to do....
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06-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#232
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Franchise Player
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Threw away fox and ferland for nothing
Complete garbage
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06-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#233
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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So as this gets hashed out. Fox wasn't singing. Hamilton is an issue behind the curtain. Even the guys on the draft show right now all said the same thing.
I don't see this as a bad trade solely because Treliving had always hinted there was something wrong in the locker room. He's gone and fixed it with some very very good, very young and cost controlled long term players.
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06-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#234
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
So...
Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone
Andersson
I still don't like the forwards. Lindholm is really not much of an upgrade. They'd better not throw in the towel here now.
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Are you serious? Lindholm is a massive upgrade on Ferland.
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06-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#235
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Lifetime Suspension
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Hamilton is soft. Good shot but a lot of meh after that. Interestingly on his 3rd team at this age, what dies that say?
Ferland is replacable. Like the guy, but not a core piece. Fox is the unknown. But he may have been lost anyways.
Hopefully Hanifin can play with much better effort than Hamilton.
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06-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#236
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First Line Centre
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Guys on nhl.com speculating again that Hamilton didn't fit in the locker room.
Ferland coming off a career year.
It's a lot to give up but Treliving selling high and the room needed a shakeup.
Lindholm is what he is, don't have much more expectation of him but if Hanifin busts, this will be a terrible trade.
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06-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#237
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Like you I'm not a big Ferland fan but he scores goals at a better clip than Lindholm and he's essentially a throw in with Fox and Hamilton going the other way. You can understand that Carolina fans may be giddy over this trade.
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I guess the better question is will Lindholm score more or less with Johnny / Monahan? That's gotta be the question Tre believes he has answered.
Disappointed to see Fox thrown into this though. I think the deal would have been even without him. I think Tre could have used Fox a bit more advantageously in another deal than to just throw him in for balance.
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06-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#238
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caged Great
Ferland is a 4th liner with a good shot. So losing him isn't the biggest deal in the world.
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Not on the Flames he wasn't. So if that's his value, don't trade him.
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06-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#239
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Zuma
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Hanifin is a unbelievable get. Not sure of the hate here. Both guys really young with a ton of upside.
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06-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#240
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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I am okay with this deal. A change was needed and we got it. Next, they need another forward.
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