2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Jbo is the opposite of a guy you want for the playoffs.

Yes

If Treliving got rid of guys who hate to lose and that included Hamilton, why on this green earth would he contemplate Bouwmeester?

Unless his daughter wants to set up a tea party in the Flames crease.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Are you even Flames fan? I mean we have so many opportunities here, like every 15 years or something. Practically like the Habs in the 70's.

First, the post said this season was a once in a lifetime chance. I say this is the beginning of a window which will go 4, in all likelihood. It isn't all or nothing this season.

Second, I've seen the Flames make the finals three times. I'm still alive and intend to live for a long time yet.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

First, the post said this season was a once in a lifetime chance. I say this is the beginning of a window which will go 4, in all likelihood. It isn't all or nothing this season.

Second, I've seen the Flames make the finals three times. I'm still alive and intend to live for a long time yet.

4? I doubt it. At most window is 3. People need to remember that Gio is 35. Yes he is having a great season, but father time catches up with everyone. Add a couple of long playoff runs and not out of the realm that he loses a step. Do we have a #1 in the system?

Add in Johnny hockey last year of contract ( i think in 3 years), expansion draft, cap space and injury variables and we might not get as good of a chance as this year. That said not knowing the future on those things and we could be even better next year.

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

4? I doubt it. At most window is 3. People need to remember that Gio is 35. Yes he is having a great season, but father time catches up with everyone. Add a couple of long playoff runs and not out of the realm that he loses a step. Do we have a #1 in the system?

We don't have #1 in the system unless its a Rittich or some re-imagined version of Parsons.

Gio is getting older.

The window right now is this year and next. Even making the playoffs beyond that is not guaranteed.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

First, the post said this season was a once in a lifetime chance. I say this is the beginning of a window which will go 4, in all likelihood. It isn't all or nothing this season.

Second, I've seen the Flames make the finals three times. I'm still alive and intend to live for a long time yet.

Likewise, but I am not as optimistic as you. For all we know, this is peak Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, Giordano, Brodie. Probably not, but who knows? This year has been #1 golden lucky as far as injuries, knock on wood. Everything is coming up Millhouse. You just can't bet on that next year or the year after that... Maybe it's the pessimism of Flames failures talking.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Likewise, but I am not as optimistic as you. For all we know, this is peak Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, Giordano, Brodie. Probably not, but who knows? This year has been #1 golden lucky as far as injuries, knock on wood. Everything is coming up Millhouse. You just can't bet on that next year or the year after that... Maybe it's the pessimism of Flames failures talking.

It's the best season in franchise history since 1989.

Posters are acting like this is the new normal. Uh...

[GioforPM]

We have a number of years of Monahan, Gaudreau, Lindholm, Gio, Hanifin. All three rookie D are on EFCs for several. Rittich will be re-signed - he has limited rights. Tkachuk will be re-signed for multiple years. Brodie and Hamonic have another season yet. That's more than just a solid core for years, it's a team that just needs tinkering from year to year.

The future is bright. It is the new normal.

My point is that this isn't the only chance and Treliving needs to be careful he doesn't over reach. That's too desperate.

[dino7c]

Flames are likely losing a dman to the expansion draft and Gio can't keep this up forever

There are also piss poor wild card teams this year, win the west and you are likely playing an 88-91 point team in the first round.

IDK, I would go for it. By the time a late first rounder is making an impact (if ever) the Flames are probably on the way down

[Poe969]

Just because those players will still be Flames, doesn't mean they'll ever be this good again...all at the same time. They could and likely will be but I doubt this is the new norm for all of them.

[dino7c]

"going for it" doesn't mean going crazy either...Jets traded their first last year, didn't win, franchise still standing

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

"going for it" doesn't mean going crazy either...Jets traded their first last year, didn't win, franchise still standing

TBF it was a really late first. I wonder if they regretted it though, when they were ousted. And Stasney then signed elsewhere.

To the above points though, it wasn't the chance of a lifetime because they are back, pretty solid.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

TBF it was a really late first. I wonder if they regretted it though, when they were ousted. And Stasney then signed elsewhere.

To the above points though, it wasn't the chance of a lifetime because they are back, pretty solid.

Lol.

It was a late first because stastny pushed them into the third round.

No, I don't think they regret it at all.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Just because those players will still be Flames, doesn't mean they'll ever be this good again...all at the same time. They could and likely will be but I doubt this is the new norm for all of them.

Yeah, you can't guarantee that a third of the team is going to always have career years in the next 4 years. Giordano is having one at 35, but that is rare. This probably won't be their only chance, but it could be their best. It would suck to look back on it as a year that could have been.

I'm not sure if we need to make any moves, but we can't take the best season in 30 years for granted.

[Flamenspiel]

Its a great season so far, there are still 36 games to go. Nothing proven yet.

[Kybb79]

Last years draft was sad with no 1st and 2nd keep the 1st.

[Phagoof]

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Stone

/drool

Get Stone, pls mr. wizard pls

[djsFlames]

Get a guy with term then, to hell with those "all in" rentals. Not Treliving's way, why start now.

Edit: Unless it's Mark Stone.

[AC]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Get a guy with term then, to hell with those "all in" rentals. Not Treliving's way, why start now.

Edit: Unless it's Mark Stone.

Not many players with term I can see moving.

Kreider, Schenn, and Toffoli all have 1 year left after this season.

They might be the closet options for non-pending free agents.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Bouwmeester - I personally would be very hesitant of reacquiring Bouwmeester simply because he has apparently slowed down tremendously due to a prior injury. However, with that being said, make no mistake that "Brent Sutter" Bouwmeester was a HUGE disappointment, but "Bob Hartley" Bouwmeester was fantastic. I couldn't stand Bouwmeester under Brent Sutter, but boy oh boy I thought he was such a completely different player under Hartley. I bet Peters would get something good out of him as well, seeing how he and Huska have the rest of the defencemen going. Caveat here being that it appears Bouwmeester has lost some significant footspeed - I would pass if this is true.


Stone - if you have a chance to get Stone, and all it costs you is a 1st, Dube and Kylington + Frolik and Smith, you make that trade every time. I really like Kylington and have liked him since his draft year (I think he will become a top 4 defencemen and PP quarterback, and I think he is the epitome of what the NHL is moving towards with regards to defencemen). Dube is nothing to sneeze at either, a 1st is always valuable (even a late first). I also think that Frolik is NOT a 'throw in' with no value - he most certainly does have value.


Stone is, however, a true 'franchise-level' player. I don't care what position a player plays at times. Have we not seen Gaudreau and Tkachuk, take turns at almost single-handedly changing the outcome of games? Flames under Iginla as the franchise skater were one phantom goal from winning Lord Stanley. Heck, Lindholm has had a profound impact on this team.


What that second line is missing is another sniper/playmaker kind of player. Someone that can make high-end plays as well as score at a decent clip. Someone like Tanguay during his prime, or Juice even. It would be a similar line to the Chicago line for a couple of seasons - elite winger - defensive center - elite winger. Good luck trying to contain the top line AND the second line.


Actually, they would be even more deadly. Not only will they score, they will do so against the opposing teams' best players. Not only that, the trio might have the potential of becoming the NHL's top shut-down/two-way line. Running two lines that are elite in their own ways + an extremely strong defensive corps + competent (if untested) goaltending in Rittich....



If Stone is available without giving up a core piece, you get him. You re-sign him too. I don't care if you have to package up a couple of other assets to move out Neal if he continues to do nothing between now and the end of the playoffs, or whomever else.



My preference is:
Forwards: Stone---------Schenn-------------Duchene/Tarasenko-----Ferland---Maroon--Simmonds from all the names discussed.



Schenn would bring lots of grit and toughness, and hopefully fitting in with a Bennett and (Neal?), making a potentially good looking 3rd line (or on the 2nd with Tkachuk - who knows).



Duchene scares me and excites me - lingering rumours about his off-ice lifestyle and not always being a solid pro... but he can be a game breaker and has filthy speed.


Tarasenko would be very expensive and a bit more of a risk. Does he want to play in Canada? Will he be engaged, or become a distraction? Two declining years in a row (especially this season), but he is only 27 years old and is a 225lb unstoppable force with golden hands. He is a guy that is very difficult to stop from getting to the areas on the ice that you can score from.


Ferland - say what you will about him, but he has good chemistry with some of the players on Calgary already, has great footspeed and does stick up for his teammates. His concussion issues worry me. You trade for him like he is an expiring contract, and if he costs too much to re-sign, you let him walk in the off-season.



Maroon is big, not very quick (and thus near the bottom of my list) but he is intelligent, knows how to muck it up in front of opposing teams' nets and has really good hands. When a series gets rough, you want guys like Maroon not only to battle for you physically, but also get those greasy goals.


Simmonds - he has checked out, but as long as the acquisition cost isn't stupid, he may check-in with a chance to win and show that he isn't done and deserves a contract somewhere (not in Calgary, unless it is CHEAP - I don't want a guy that will check out for the duration of his deal). For a run at the cup? Sure, I would gamble on Simmonds, but he is near the bottom of my list.



As for a depth defencemen - Bouwmeester does make sense (if he isn't too slow). You either get a defensive defencemen that can move the puck 'decently', with at least a bit of jam to his game, or an all out-and-out puck-mover/pp specialist that may be iffy on defence, but who may fit in with the system and help bring speed to the line-up if one of the top 6 defencemen are injured. Someone cheap and not awful.



Stone would be dynamite.

[Love]

Anaheim. Trade us Lord Silfverberg

Impending UFA, and with every passing game and have less and less to play for. I could see them firing Carlyle and blowing it up. Great two way forward with a wicked wrister. And also a known playoff monster.