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Old 02-11-2018, 05:12 PM   #21
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Dave if you don't like how the league is run you know where the door is. The league operates on the honors system with GMs for the most part.
In the case of Keith, AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED, the GM was going through some personal matters. We trust that it wasn't intentional. It has been addressed. If it hasn't been addressed to your satisfaction then you can either to choose to move forward, or you can leave the league.
What isn't an option for you to continue to bring it up over and over again.

So what do you want to do here?
I sure do know where the door is, down the hall and to the left.

Not sure how many times I can say this ain’t on Scorp, I am simply asking for the league (AKA Grant), to recognize that you are a busy man, a volunteer that can’t catch everything. Admit that this isn’t a normal situation and don’t put yourself in a position for new GMs to see that it is. I am willing to accept that Scorp was on the IR but he ain’t on the IR now.

What do you want to do here?
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:14 PM   #22
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Read my last comment, recognize I am right and then I will move on.
We have, numerous times in the past, been more forgiving of GMs who have explained to us that they have had some personal stuff going on. That's the case here.
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I sure do know where the door is, down the hall and to the left.

Not sure how many times I can say this ain’t on Scorp, I am simply asking for the league (AKA Grant), to recognize that you are a busy man, a volunteer that can’t catch everything. Admit that this isn’t a normal situation and don’t put yourself in a position for new GMs to see that it is. I am willing to accept that Scorp was on the IR but he ain’t on the IR now.

What do you want to do here?
This isn't about me. We have several commissioners with several duties. So I'm not sure what you are looking for here. The Keith situation has nothing to do with this. So what do you want.

Again two choices for you here. Only two.
Stop harassing this GM by bringing this up. Accept the leagues explanation even if you don't agree with it and move forward.
Or move on from the league.

A or B. There is no C.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:17 PM   #24
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We have, numerous times in the past, been more forgiving of GMs who have explained to us that they have had some personal stuff going on. That's the case here.
Also there was an opportunity to have this discussion via PM when Fisher conversation was happeneing. I never did get a response to my PM
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Also there was an opportunity to have this discussion via PM when Fisher conversation was happeneing. I never did get a response to my PM
Your response was discussed in the thread instead. What you PM'd me was no different than the issues you raised in the thread.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:19 PM   #26
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This isn't about me. We have several commissioners with several duties. So I'm not sure what you are looking for here. The Keith situation has nothing to do with this. So what do you want.

Again two choices for you here. Only two.
Stop harassing this GM by bringing this up. Accept the leagues explanation even if you don't agree with it and move forward.
Or move on from the league.

A or B. There is no C.
I choose D. That is the option where you respond to my PM so we don’t do this here any longer.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:21 PM   #27
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The PM where you accuse me of being bush league?
No - I'm not motivated to respond to someone that starts a chat that way.
That's not a conversation.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:22 PM   #28
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I choose the box! The box!
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:23 PM   #29
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The PM where you accuse me of being bush league?
No - I'm not motivated to respond to someone that starts a chat that way.
That's not a conversation.
Ya that one!

Ok I’ll send another that’s more PG13.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:26 PM   #30
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Day to day can come off IR as far as I know. I am sure he’ll continue to get what he wants. The gifts keep on coming.
This is the stuff that needs to stop NOW.
Keith should be on IR. He is below the rating that allows him to be played in the sim.
This isn't a gift and implying that the league is somehow favoring Scorp is unacceptable.
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It can stop now. I sent another PM. Hope you respond to this one.
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Old 02-11-2018, 05:28 PM   #32
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This is the stuff that needs to stop NOW.
Keith should be on IR. He is below the rating that allows him to be played in the sim.
This isn't a gift and implying that the league is somehow favoring Scorp is unacceptable.
Perhaps I am using old rules where day to day meant a guy can come off IR.
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If the player can't be used in the sim he should be on IR.
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It’s funny I’ve heard that from about 20 people yet no one is willing to speak out when the conversation is happening. Why is that?

Edit: except Doug
Because not everyone feels the need to have a public display, the one other time I noticed something similar (no idea if it was intentional) I pmed a commish and it was dealt with.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:11 AM   #37
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The league has rejected the deal because of too many go forward conditions.
Moving forward, we will be adding a rule that the only picks that may be traded, including conditions, are for the next two drafts. So for instance, right now you can trade picks and conditions related to 2018 and 2019 draft. 2020 is off the table. Once the 2018 draft happens than 2020 picks can be traded. And so on? Questions?
This is designed to protect future GMs from stepping into a situation where they have to deal with the fall out of these types of deals.
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Cool. Good to know.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:11 PM   #39
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Well, we re-jigged this trade and made it even bigger somehow. Thanks to the Kings for sticking with me.

To the Kings:

Connor Hall
Evan Fitzpatrick
Artur Kayumov
Frank Vatrano
Paul Carey
Mark Fayne
2019 2nd
2019 4th

To the Isles:

TJ Oshie
Cory Conacher
Phil Di Giuseppe
Alexandre Grenier
Dalton Thrower
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:35 PM   #40
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I’m interested to see what the Islanders line up looks like now with all these trades. Nice big blockbuster
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