02-23-2018, 04:04 PM
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#1781
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
Yup, and I believe that unlike the 737-800NG it can do it on a full load. Remember when WestJet first started YYC-OGG/HNL flights, they used the 737-800 but blocked off middle seats so they could make it.
Wikipedia has the 2 Class range of the MAX 8 at 3550 nautical miles, so here is the map showing what that range gets you:
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?R=3550nm%40YYC&MS=wls&DU=mi |
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02-23-2018, 04:14 PM
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#1782
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtime
Unfortunately this translates into a loss of capacity on both routes.
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Probably with an associated increase in price... Though it does mean the benefit of not being stuck on those lousy Rouge planes. Will the mainline 737max be better? Hard to be worse.
Last edited by billybob123; 02-23-2018 at 10:00 PM.
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02-24-2018, 07:46 AM
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#1783
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billybob123
Probably with an associated increase in price... Though it does mean the benefit of not being stuck on those lousy Rouge planes. Will the mainline 737max be better? Hard to be worse.
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Not sure on the pricing part (with WestJet on the route too though I think things stay pretty reasonable) but here are the differences in the seats with the MAX 8 versus the Rouge 763:
MAX 8:
Business Class Seats 38" pitch, 21" width
Economy Class Seats 30" pitch, 18" width
Rouge 767:
Business Class Seats 37" pitch, 18.5" width
Economy Plus 35" pitch, 18" width
Economy 30" pitch, 17.5" width
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02-24-2018, 08:13 AM
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#1784
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billybob123
Probably with an associated increase in price... Though it does mean the benefit of not being stuck on those lousy Rouge planes. Will the mainline 737max be better? Hard to be worse.
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I just did the math on seats for a 767 rouge vs a 7M8. Using all 3 classes on the 767 it's a 20% loss in seats even if they go to 4x weekly. If WJ follows suit it'll inevitably increase flight costs.
Hopefully they'll go to 5x weekly which would restore total seats... The flexibility would be welcome.
Last edited by I-Hate-Hulse; 02-24-2018 at 08:45 AM.
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02-24-2018, 09:37 AM
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#1785
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse
I just did the math on seats for a 767 rouge vs a 7M8. Using all 3 classes on the 767 it's a 20% loss in seats even if they go to 4x weekly. If WJ follows suit it'll inevitably increase flight costs.
Hopefully they'll go to 5x weekly which would restore total seats... The flexibility would be welcome.
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The most important thing to the airlines though is how many butts are in those seats. Maybe AC doesn't need and doesn't fill all those seats that are currently available. Going to a more frequent, smaller capacity aircraft is likely right-sizing their operation.
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02-26-2018, 09:47 AM
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#1786
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
YYC has partially re-opened long-term parking in Parkade 2. All international and US passengers are encouraged to use this parkade. The EAST elevators will allow access through the passenger tunnel that is located in the arrivals level.
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How did the re-opening go from May to Feb? They literally just tweeted it wouldn't be open until May.
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02-26-2018, 10:17 AM
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#1787
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
How did the re-opening go from May to Feb? They literally just tweeted it wouldn't be open until May.
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When the other parkade and parking lots weren't filling up, I guess they figured it wasn't the end of the world. When they started losing money because they were full, I bet they quickly found a way to open a bit of P2.
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03-08-2018, 10:17 AM
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#1789
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Yesterday Air Canada did indeed formally announce those YYC routes for next winter, but they also added in PSP with a daily flight. HUX has also been dropped:
YYC - PSP: NEW daily A320
YYC - PVR: increase to 4x weekly A320
YYC - SJD: increase to 3x weekly A320
YYC - PHX: increase to daily A320
YYC - OGG: 4x weekly MAX 8
YYC - CUN: 3x weekly MAX 8
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03-08-2018, 10:25 AM
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#1790
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Franchise Player
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Would be nice if you added the city name since my limited brain doesn't memorize airport codes.
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03-08-2018, 10:44 AM
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#1791
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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In learning so many airport codes I have forgotten lots of other things... 
PSP: Palm Springs
PVR: Puerto Vallarta
SJD: Los Cabos
PHX: Phoenix
OGG: Kahului (Maui)
CUN: Cancun
HUX: Huatulco
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03-08-2018, 11:03 AM
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#1792
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Would be nice if you added the city name since my limited brain doesn't memorize airport codes.
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I've gotten in the habit of just quickly googling any airport code I don't know, since I realized I was just gonna have to learn them eventually.
Ctrl+T to open a new browser tab
Type in "hux airport", press enter
Takes about 10 seconds.
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03-08-2018, 11:18 AM
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#1793
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazrim
I've gotten in the habit of just quickly googling any airport code I don't know, since I realized I was just gonna have to learn them eventually.
Ctrl+T to open a new browser tab
Type in "hux airport", press enter
Takes about 10 seconds.
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Double-click airport code, right click, select "search google for ___"
The even easier way!
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03-08-2018, 11:55 AM
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#1794
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Think the AC flight will help bring down the costs of WS flights to PSP?
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03-08-2018, 12:09 PM
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#1795
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TopChed
Double-click airport code, right click, select "search google for ___"
The even easier way!
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Only problem is sometimes the airport code won't give you proper results unless you include "airport" in the search.
For example, when I search PSP, I get results on the PlayStation Portable, not Palm Springs airport.
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03-08-2018, 12:39 PM
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#1796
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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If you search YYC - PSP or YYC - OGG you will get results showing you the cities and airports.
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03-08-2018, 02:03 PM
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#1797
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Think the AC flight will help bring down the costs of WS flights to PSP?
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Ultimately, yes.
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03-08-2018, 02:52 PM
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#1798
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Think the AC flight will help bring down the costs of WS flights to PSP?
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How could it? PSP flights are regularily around $300-350 round trip (CAD too). Can you get much cheaper than that? And that is with nil competition on the route.
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03-08-2018, 05:29 PM
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#1799
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
How could it? PSP flights are regularily around $300-350 round trip (CAD too). Can you get much cheaper than that? And that is with nil competition on the route.
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Wish I could find those kinds of prices. Whenever I check PSP, the flight is around double that.
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03-08-2018, 07:02 PM
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#1800
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary
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There's a bit of variance in PSP fares, and yes there are ~$400 RT's to be had... but only mid-week. AC might "smooth" out the variance.
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