View Poll Results: What's your reaction to Bill Peters being hired as HC
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Hate it
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6.91% |
A little nervous
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81 |
10.00% |
Cautiously Optimistic
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42.84% |
Love it
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34 |
4.20% |
Taking a wait and see approach
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271 |
33.46% |
Don't think it matters
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04-25-2018, 08:14 AM
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#201
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the reason GG was always looking down was because he had CP open and was looking for suggestions.
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04-25-2018, 08:22 AM
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#202
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Poe969
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the reason GG was always looking down was because he had CP open and was looking for suggestions.
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He'd probably still be here if that were true.
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04-25-2018, 08:23 AM
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#203
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Poe969
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the reason GG was always looking down was because he had CP open and was looking for suggestions.
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"They want me to make adjustments... . I'll show them....."
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04-25-2018, 08:38 AM
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#204
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by edslunch
We don't really know what he was doing, but 2 goals against in 2 minutes 22 times suggests maybe not enough of the right things.
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That is indeed a horrible stat. Probably the most telling of anything with respect to the Flames (whether it be GG, players or both). They had no pushback - quite the opposite.
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04-25-2018, 08:44 AM
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#205
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
That's cool. I'll just say this. Anyone that rants and screams at Peters looking at a monitor after a goal is going on my ignore list. I don't have time for that. I might be reading threads with only a few posts that actually show up for me, but I'd rather that than go insane reading that stuff.
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As far as threats go, this is about as worrying as promising to beat someone with boiled spaghetti.
If Peters spends half as much time staring at the ipad as Gulutzan did, we're screwed.
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04-25-2018, 08:50 AM
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#206
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
As far as threats go, this is about as worrying as promising to beat someone with boiled spaghetti.
If Peters spends half as much time staring at the ipad as Gulutzan did, we're screwed.
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I, for one, feel threatened.
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04-25-2018, 09:46 AM
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#207
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
As far as threats go, this is about as worrying as promising to beat someone with boiled spaghetti.
If Peters spends half as much time staring at the ipad as Gulutzan did, we're screwed.
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The level of narcissism someone would have to have to think that's a threat is kind of astounding.
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04-25-2018, 10:12 AM
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#208
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#1 Goaltender
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My reaction to Bill Peters being hired as HC is that I don't think it matters unless there are significant changes to the roster.
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04-25-2018, 10:16 AM
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#209
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by rubecube
The level of narcissism someone would have to have to think that's a threat is kind of astounding.
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Welcome to the ignore list.
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04-25-2018, 10:31 AM
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#210
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Franchise Player
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Body language counts. In job interviews, as a manager, in front of customers, or leading a group.
Just saying.
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04-25-2018, 10:40 AM
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#211
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Body language counts. In job interviews, as a manager, in front of customers, or leading a group.
Just saying.
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Agree. I don't understand how guys here miss this obvious point. The optics are that GG is either not able to asses plays live or that he doesn't know what to say so he looks away. Or both. Players see that "leadership" and hang their heads.
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04-25-2018, 10:44 AM
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#212
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First Line Centre
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I voted for "wait and see". Having said that, while driving from Alberta back to BC I had an opportunity to listen to both the Kerr/Steinberg and the Boomer/Rhett conversations with Peters. I was surprisingly impressed.
And then I realized why. He reminds me of Terry Crisp. His manner, approachability and no-nonsense attitude.
If he gets the same results, I'll be pretty happy.
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04-25-2018, 10:46 AM
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#213
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Bleeding Red
From where I sit it really doesn't matter who the hire is so long as there are still remnants of the last coaching team around. Peters and his assistants could be great, but the same tired eyes on the video screen could kibosh their preparation, while the same tired philosophy/mantra with the goalies just stagnates them. (Can anyone tell me what Gelinas role is exactly? player relations? Good ol'days insights??)
I really feel that keeping Sigalet was a mistake. He has not taken any of the last 6-8 goalies in our system to any level, but has been the one constant while they sucked. Shouldn't a good goalie coach recognize that Smith wasn't ready to come back and told his head coach that? Did Elliott, playing for a contract, and Hillier, playing out the string, simply ignore him? Has any of the last, seemingly endless stream of goalies credited Sigalet with anything (pushed me to be better; taught me to let go; told me to not step on the lines and talk to all 3 of my goal posts)?
Sigalet sticks around much longer and we will have flashes of Trefilov and Muzzatti as Gilles and Parsons get left on the heap.
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In the conversation I heard with Tre and Kerr(?), Steinberg (?) he was asked about the other coaches. He started to answer and then said "They are part of our team....{{pause}}.. right now."
Makes me wonder if he's held off with others pending discussions with Peters and thoughts about who else might come in.
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04-25-2018, 12:18 PM
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#214
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by edslunch
We don't really know what he was doing, but 2 goals against in 2 minutes 22 times suggests maybe not enough of the right things.
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How does that compare to the rest of the league?
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04-25-2018, 12:22 PM
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#215
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Section 203
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Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
That's cool. I'll just say this. Anyone that rants and screams at Peters looking at a monitor after a goal is going on my ignore list. I don't have time for that. I might be reading threads with only a few posts that actually show up for me, but I'd rather that than go insane reading that stuff.
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That's quite the burn. I think we should see a doctor. Does anyone know one?
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04-25-2018, 12:27 PM
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#216
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Franchise Player
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On the morning show, Peters specifically addressed that it shouldn't take longer than a training camp to get a system drilled in.
Thank Christ.
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04-25-2018, 12:55 PM
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#217
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Reign of Fire
Voted "hate it" mostly the way Treliving handled the whole situation. First I think he only fired Glen because Peters was available and second he was focused on getting his buddy. He didnt bother interviewing anyone else. So hope for everyone sake it works out,otherwise it's another wasted year or two because GM is too narrow focused. And don't feed fans the bull#### about process, if the process is to sign your buddy, without giving anyone else a chance. Hopefully this doesn't turn out as bad as when Sutter hired his brother.
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The buddy theory has already been debunked and is 100% false and absolutely ridiculous. Treliving worked with him once two years ago for a few weeks. That’s it. They’d never met before that and haven’t worked together since then.
You’re angry about stuff you’ve made up in your head to justify your irrational hatred of this signing.
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04-25-2018, 01:03 PM
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#218
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by taxbuster
In the conversation I heard with Tre and Kerr(?), Steinberg (?) he was asked about the other coaches. He started to answer and then said "They are part of our team....{{pause}}.. right now."
Makes me wonder if he's held off with others pending discussions with Peters and thoughts about who else might come in.
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So I would ask "why wait?"
I can understand waiting with the video guy. Peters likes him and thinks they can work together, great, one less thing. But my gut says they are a dime a dozen.
Why sit on Gelinas? Does he want to see if Peters will let him behind the bench? If not part ways?? This one makes no sense to me.
And of course, the biggie - why sit on Sigalet?? Again the only two constants are 1) every goalie for the last 3-4 years has been wildly inconsistent and 2) all on his watch! Any clean slate has to include showing this guy the door. If for any reason then just to get a fresh set of eyes on the guys.
Makes no sense to give these guys hope (false or otherwise).
If Tre trusts Peters, Let him bring in his team top to bottom.
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04-25-2018, 01:04 PM
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#219
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
The buddy theory has already been debunked and is 100% false and absolutely ridiculous. Treliving worked with him once two years ago for a few weeks. That’s it. They’d never met before that and haven’t worked together since then.
You’re angry about stuff you’ve made up in your head to justify your irrational hatred of this signing.
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It also shouldn't be surprising that people like to work with people they have some history and trust with.
That's not uncommon outside of sports.
Trust and having common ground is important. When hiring I regularly tap into my network as those are people I already know and trust, so I reduce the risk of making a bad hire by tapping into that pool.
I don't view it as a downside of the hire. I look at it as a trust.
Its not likely he's hiring his nephew.
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04-25-2018, 01:06 PM
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#220
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bleeding Red
So I would ask "why wait?"
I can understand waiting with the video guy. Peters likes him and thinks they can work together, great, one less thing. But my gut says they are a dime a dozen.
Why sit on Gelinas? Does he want to see if Peters will let him behind the bench? If not part ways?? This one makes no sense to me.
And of course, the biggie - why sit on Sigalet?? Again the only two constants are 1) every goalie for the last 3-4 years has been wildly inconsistent and 2) all on his watch! Any clean slate has to include showing this guy the door. If for any reason then just to get a fresh set of eyes on the guys.
Makes no sense to give these guys hope (false or otherwise).
If Tre trusts Peters, Let him bring in his team top to bottom.
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Why rush the decision? Maybe it was BP's call to see what he has with those guys before making a call.
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