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08-18-2020, 01:31 PM
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Yeah, we signed up for the hub for our son (grade 5), but we also know that (a) We've got a lot of availability to support him, and (b) he's got a good aptitude for schoolwork where he can stay focused outside of the classroom (which he definitely didn't get from me).
Our biggest reason was basically what you said, we see a lot of value on being able to plan for how things go between here and February or beyond. There's a lot of uncertainty with what will happen in the classrooms, and how stressful it will be for the students.
For younger kids, including Grade 1, I think the social side of school is more important than in older, and there are things that may be important for a child that they may not get through online learning (depending on how it's implemented)... but I also think kids are pretty resilient and adaptable for the most part, and developing some of those social skills a year later isn't a big deal. Kids develop all those skills at different speeds anyway.
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08-18-2020, 01:36 PM
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I'm am really struggling with this decision right now. We have a daughter going in to grade 1 this year and we are expecting our 3rd child at the end of September.
If it wasn't for this new born on the way I think we would be sending our oldest to school.
Right now though I just don't know what to do. Seems inevitable that schools will close and we have such a higher risk with a new born at home.
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08-18-2020, 02:09 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by octothorp
Yeah, we signed up for the hub for our son (grade 5), but we also know that (a) We've got a lot of availability to support him, and (b) he's got a good aptitude for schoolwork where he can stay focused outside of the classroom (which he definitely didn't get from me).
Our biggest reason was basically what you said, we see a lot of value on being able to plan for how things go between here and February or beyond. There's a lot of uncertainty with what will happen in the classrooms, and how stressful it will be for the students.
For younger kids, including Grade 1, I think the social side of school is more important than in older, and there are things that may be important for a child that they may not get through online learning (depending on how it's implemented)... but I also think kids are pretty resilient and adaptable for the most part, and developing some of those social skills a year later isn't a big deal. Kids develop all those skills at different speeds anyway.
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Socializing is our biggest concern as well. She will still be going to her small dayhome every day, so I think that will more or less cover that off. We can do day-trips with cousins and stuff as well.
Wife and I just decided to do the HUB program, at least until February, when they are offering the option to switch back.
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08-18-2020, 03:04 PM
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we have 6 yr old twin girls going into grade 1. this year we will put them in the same class (trying to lower our odds) and have them attend school. they are very aware of whats going on and are very diligent on face masks and sanitizing hands that we feel ok with the decision. outside of the socialization, the largest reason they will go back is because they are in french immersion. the online hub is english only. so if they go online, and merge back in february or rejoin school in grade 2... how behind in french will they be? too far in my opinion, so back to school is our current plan.
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08-18-2020, 03:08 PM
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Scoring Winger
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My wife is a sub in the CBE and she is legit scared to go back.
Seriously considering offering to tutor a pod of HUB students this year. Financially, probably not the best move, but I don't think it's worth taking the risk based on how the government is rolling things out.
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08-18-2020, 03:46 PM
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Doesn't really matter IMO for several reasons:
- just like all existing flus, virus', colds, etc... this will eventually become endemic to society and will have annual hot spots. How much do we want to flatten the curve relative to destroying business' and society?
- more than enough statistics to indicate that the younger ones are generally least susceptible to landing in ICU or death. The issue is them being carriers... and infecting the vulnerable.
- quite likely the same scenario for returning to your place of work.
- If you have more than 1 kid it's also tough as their bubbles are different at school, join at home, and then go share with the world. Because of this I expect even those who do initially go back to school must basically plan for an on/off again school year.
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08-18-2020, 03:51 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by The Fisher Account
My wife is a sub in the CBE and she is legit scared to go back.
Seriously considering offering to tutor a pod of HUB students this year. Financially, probably not the best move, but I don't think it's worth taking the risk based on how the government is rolling things out.
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If it makes her feel better, I would bet that schools will be closed by xmas anyways.
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08-18-2020, 03:59 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by RichieRich
Doesn't really matter IMO for several reasons:
- just like all existing flus, virus', colds, etc... this will eventually become endemic to society and will have annual hot spots. How much do we want to flatten the curve relative to destroying business' and society?
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what are you saying doesn't matter?
[QUOTE=RichieRich;7542413]- more than enough statistics to indicate that the younger ones are generally least susceptible to landing in ICU or death.
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The issue is them being carriers... and infecting the vulnerable.
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I'm not sure what you were going for here. Yes, part of the problem is that they can infect others. They also might have risk factors themselves.
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- quite likely the same scenario for returning to your place of work.
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This is a fairly common response to COVID. "If we can't fix it all at once, then why bother trying?" Doesn't make much sense to me though.
Every student not in the classroom, makes the entire classroom safer. I have the option to work from home and my kids have spots in dayhome they can continue to attend. It makes sense for us to keep them out of school. Not everyone is the same, but that's the beauty of free will.
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- If you have more than 1 kid it's also tough as their bubbles are different at school, join at home, and then go share with the world. Because of this I expect even those who do initially go back to school must basically plan for an on/off again school year.
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totally agree with this.
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08-18-2020, 05:08 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by RichieRich
- If you have more than 1 kid it's also tough as their bubbles are different at school, join at home, and then go share with the world. Because of this I expect even those who do initially go back to school must basically plan for an on/off again school year.
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I don't know if this is the norm or not, but our school is placing siblings within the same cohort. They've also asked parents to volunteer known associations outside of school (i.e. go to the same dance studio) and will try and accommodate those into the cohorts as well. It's not perfect, but I thought the consideration was notable.
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08-18-2020, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Good analysis, without sufficient information (as you say) that's about as good as you can do.
Our specific situation (age, nature of kid, my ability to work from home, risk factors at home, etc) has me leaning towards the online. Worst case is it's only until February.
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08-19-2020, 10:13 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by moncton golden flames
we have 6 yr old twin girls going into grade 1. this year we will put them in the same class (trying to lower our odds) and have them attend school. they are very aware of whats going on and are very diligent on face masks and sanitizing hands that we feel ok with the decision. outside of the socialization, the largest reason they will go back is because they are in french immersion. the online hub is english only. so if they go online, and merge back in february or rejoin school in grade 2... how behind in french will they be? too far in my opinion, so back to school is our current plan.
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Completely OT so apologizes but is your plan to eventually put them in separate classes? We did that with our twins in Grade 1 but moved them back to the same class and never looked back. They did much better together than if we split them up. Grade one was a challenge to say the least. Do whatever you feel is right, don't let the school tell you how they would prefer it (not saying that is an issue for you but we were pressured to split them)
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08-19-2020, 10:38 AM
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I'm curious about those that depend on childcare as well. My inlaws are older and their son is sending his kids back to school, but he also heavily depends on his parents to look after his kids and take them to activities. They are now wondering if they can do that if the kids go back to school. They don't want covid, but the risks are going to be increased greatly for them.
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08-19-2020, 10:55 AM
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I'm curious about those that depend on childcare as well. My inlaws are older and their son is sending his kids back to school, but he also heavily depends on his parents to look after his kids and take them to activities. They are now wondering if they can do that if the kids go back to school. They don't want covid, but the risks are going to be increased greatly for them.
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Also on the topic of childcare and/or keeping kids home. Businesses are going to end up on the hook when their plans to return to work are derailed by all their employees who will suddenly claim they need to continue WFH because they are choosing to keep their kids home from school.
Interesting debate on this one. Business has been extremely flexible (they didn't have a choice) when the initial weave hit and everyone was sent home but how much longer are they going to be expected to accommodate employees whoa re not comfortable with the situation even if it may be safe (debatable I will admit).
Case in point - my sister in law. She is supposed to return to work next week but is 'not comfortable' doing so despite her employer making major adjustments to the workplace. Her daughter is also going back to school and she is 'not comfortable' sending her. At what point does an employer draw the line and say you are either coming back or you can move on but you cannot have it both ways.
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08-19-2020, 12:29 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Completely OT so apologizes but is your plan to eventually put them in separate classes? We did that with our twins in Grade 1 but moved them back to the same class and never looked back. They did much better together than if we split them up. Grade one was a challenge to say the least. Do whatever you feel is right, don't let the school tell you how they would prefer it (not saying that is an issue for you but we were pressured to split them)
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We had them separated in kindergarten last year and had no issues. We do plan on going back to separated in grade 2 next year. We have dictated this process and the school has always been very accommodating thankfully.
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