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Old 10-07-2022, 08:34 PM   #1
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Icon46 Canucks acquire Riley Stillman for Jason Dickinson and 2nd round pick

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Old 10-07-2022, 08:36 PM   #2
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I’ve heard of the 2nd round pick.
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Old 10-07-2022, 08:38 PM   #3
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Old 10-07-2022, 08:41 PM   #4
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Stillman makes 1.35 million vs Dickinson makes 2.65 million. Cap dump indeed
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Old 10-07-2022, 08:44 PM   #5
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Could have saved a million just by waiving and demoting Dickinson. Gotta think Vancouver thinks Stillman can do something for them.
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Could have saved a million just by waiving and demoting Dickinson. Gotta think Vancouver thinks Stillman can do something for them.
Well, but then they would still have the remaining cap hit. If they demote Stillman almost his entire cap hit is buried. Plus both players have 2 years left. A 2nd is a lot to give up though.
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Old 10-07-2022, 08:55 PM   #7
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Pretty pointless from VAN
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Old 10-07-2022, 09:12 PM   #8
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Van has injury problems. Myers just got hurt too. They need D men and are/were in cap trouble.
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Old 10-07-2022, 10:31 PM   #9
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Dickenson was a pretty good player in Dallas, and then went to Vancouver and was a disaster. Good reclamation project for Chicago and picks up a 2nd.
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Old 10-07-2022, 11:19 PM   #10
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Thoughts and prayers to Riley Stillman and the Stillman family.
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I thought the Canucks were high on Dickinson, but he just had a lot of bad luck in scoring goals. Works hard and is a decent defensive forward. Was getting a lot of increased chances under Boudreau. Seemed most suited for a bottom-6 role.

Here's the quote about him from last off-season when he was acquired by Benning:

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The irony to see how that turned out. I didn't think he was very effective on the PK though.
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Could have saved a million just by waiving and demoting Dickinson. Gotta think Vancouver thinks Stillman can do something for them.
Can only bury something like $950k in the minors, so as I understand it, even if they sent Dickinson down they’d still be looking at cap implications of:

$1.7M (Dickinson $2.65M - $.95M)
$0.9M (approx cost of his replacement)
= $2.6M

It’s a wash.

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Oh good they traded a second and a third for Stillman.

I had high hopes for Dickinson when he was initially traded for however I think that he looked better than he was behind a very good Dallas Stars team defense and when he played with a much looser Canucks system he looked worse than what was expected.
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I was about to ask who the heck Riley Stillman is, but then was like “wait. WHO IS PATRIK ALLVIN??”

Am I so out of touch…?
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I was about to ask who the heck Riley Stillman is, but then was like “wait. WHO IS PATRIK ALLVIN??”

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Can only bury something like $950k in the minors, so as I understand it, even if they sent Dickinson down they’d still be looking at cap implications of:

$1.7M (Dickinson $2.65M - $.95M)
$0.9M (approx cost of his replacement)
= $2.6M

It’s a wash.

Someone will obviously correct me if I’m wrong.
The waiver savings is min contract + $375K. So for this year, it's $1.125M

But your point remains - their savings would be $1.125 minus the cost of the replacement player. So at most, $375k
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Old 10-08-2022, 02:21 PM   #19
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It sounds like they might have a deal in place for Ferland's contract. If that's the case then they get more from raw cap space than they would if they were using Robidas Island.
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