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Old 09-27-2019, 06:15 PM   #1
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Special ceremony going on in Rimouski where they are retiring Crosby's 87. The QMJHL is also retiring his 87 league wide, first player QMJHL player to receive that honor..

Frank Seravalli @frank_seravalli
QMJHL announces here tonight in Rimouski that no player will ever wear No. 87 in the league again.

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Old 09-27-2019, 06:19 PM   #2
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Awesome. In the conversation for best of all time. Good for him.
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This is great, but didn't Mario play in that league? He's not retired???
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:18 PM   #4
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Seems appropriate.
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:23 PM   #5
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Kind of odd to retire the number of the 182nd ranked all time scorer in your league, league wide no?
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:27 PM   #6
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The pre-game ceremony was about an hour and a half long.

Simply unfathomable.

But 87 retired league wide? I'll have to check out the banners at Centre 200 next time I'm there haha
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Old 09-27-2019, 07:42 PM   #7
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Kind of odd to retire the number of the 182nd ranked all time scorer in your league, league wide no?
Patrice Lefebvre must be turning over in his grave.
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Patrice Lefebvre must be turning over in his grave.
It's pretty incredible that Patrice Lefebvre could score 200 points in junior and the following season all he can find is a job in the French league. No NHL team deemed him worthy enough to even get an AHL deal?

Also, it's a really big miss to retire Crosby's 87 league wide but not Lemieux. Guy scored almost 300 points in a single season!
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It's pretty incredible that Patrice Lefebvre could score 200 points in junior and the following season all he can find is a job in the French league. No NHL team deemed him worthy enough to even get an AHL deal?

Also, it's a really big miss to retire Crosby's 87 league wide but not Lemieux. Guy scored almost 300 points in a single season!
Yeah, but did Lemieux have a cool hat?
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Is hockey the only sport that does this?
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Is hockey the only sport that does this?
Major League Baseball has 42 retired league wide.
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It's pretty incredible that Patrice Lefebvre could score 200 points in junior and the following season all he can find is a job in the French league. No NHL team deemed him worthy enough to even get an AHL deal?
He managed to get 3 games with the 98-99' Capitals at age 31. Pretty fascinating career path - ended up playing in Italy until he was 42!

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=3076
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It's pretty incredible that Patrice Lefebvre could score 200 points in junior and the following season all he can find is a job in the French league. No NHL team deemed him worthy enough to even get an AHL deal?

Also, it's a really big miss to retire Crosby's 87 league wide but not Lemieux. Guy scored almost 300 points in a single season!

His size according to hockeydb was 5 foot six and 160 pounds.


In the 80s, that wasn't going to get you anywhere, unfortunately


Far too many small skilled guys never got a fair shake, and the Q was kind of always viewed as a league where the stats were inflated, no? Or was that later?


But 136 assists in 70 games - wow.
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His size according to hockeydb was 5 foot six and 160 pounds.


In the 80s, that wasn't going to get you anywhere, unfortunately


Far too many small skilled guys never got a fair shake, and the Q was kind of always viewed as a league where the stats were inflated, no? Or was that later?


But 136 assists in 70 games - wow.


Although he came out of junior the same year as Fleury and was about the same size. You’d think some team might give him a chance at some point before he finally did get his cup of coffee in 1999.

But then I guess Martin St. Louis almost didn’t get a fair shake either and that was quite a bit later.
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87 was an awesome year. Hockey number? Not so much.

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It's pretty incredible that Patrice Lefebvre could score 200 points in junior and the following season all he can find is a job in the French league. No NHL team deemed him worthy enough to even get an AHL deal?

Also, it's a really big miss to retire Crosby's 87 league wide but not Lemieux. Guy scored almost 300 points in a single season!
I watched him play a little for the Thunder in the 90's, he was really small, had a muffin of a shot and got knocked off the puck a lot, he had a little sandpaper to him but he was just too small, I remember thinking this guy has to be the smallest captain in pro hockey history(yes even smaller than Theo) former Flame Mark Habscheid was both his linemate and coach I think.

His skating and play making would likely have made him a very good NHL'er in today's game but not then.

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I can't say I am a fan of leagues doing this. I would even go as far as saying I'd love to see the entire concept of retired numbers scrapped. I don't believe there is a better way to honor a player than to wear the number of a player you idolized.
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... it's a really big miss to retire Crosby's 87 league wide but not Lemieux. Guy scored almost 300 points in a single season!
Holy crap.

In 1983–84 when Mario Lemieux led the QMJHL with 133 goals and 282 points in 70 games, he outpaced the #2 scorer by 57 goals and 112 points. That is ridiculous.
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Seems more like a league PR grab for some cheap short term marketing material and social media “likes” and “thumbs up” to have a current NHL player recognized in such a way before he’s even retired.

I’m sure you could go back further, but Mario put that league on the map, certainly for superstars (and/or superstars who played outside of the Canadiens) back when.
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