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Old 10-13-2017, 02:08 PM   #1
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I'm looking for a specific kind of projector.

Short throw: Capable of doing 48" x 96" (exact size) in a distance of less than 7 feet.

Ability to project in a lighted room. Assuming 3000 lumens or more.

How does the short throw work? Lots say they can do the screen size I'm looking for in a distance of way less than 7', however can I move the projector to 7' away and still get my screen size?

Looking to spend around $1000 if possible.

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Old 10-13-2017, 05:18 PM   #2
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Short throw is usually like 1m or even less, a couple of meters should find more that can do it.

Projector Central has a searchable database where you can put in your desired screen size and stuff and it'll give you projectors that should work:

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm
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So I've got it narrowed down to 3 these models.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...00A3-_-Product

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...9SIA7RD2X27861

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...-236-_-Product

Any thoughts? Is the higher contrast ratio better? Again, I need this to display a very decent picture in daylight settings. The throw ratio is correct for 3 of them.

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Old 10-16-2017, 01:44 PM   #4
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I'd go with the 2nd one out of those 3 - highest lumens and contrast ratio - it looks like you pay extra on the first one for the possibility of serial control through Creston, etc.

Also the 2nd one gives you the longest advertised bulb life, so should help reduce overall operation costs.

Laser projectors start around $4000, so those would be out of your budget
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Old 10-16-2017, 02:04 PM   #5
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This is just a short term solution for us anyways so I'm not too keen on spending that kind of money on a laser projector anyways.

We have a Optoma HD26 as well that I tested in a daylight operation, and it can display the picture I want with clear enough detail. I'd imagine the one with 3600 lumens will do that a bit better, no?

The HD26 has 3200 lumens.
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Am I hijacking your thread, OP, by asking other projector questions here?
I'm looking specifically for thoughts/ideas/advice on ultra short throw projectors.
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Check out costco.ca. Have bought my last three projectors from there for my Man Cave in last 12 yrs. Highly recommended for price, quality and return policy. I have a similar throw distance. That calculater referenced earlier is excellent. Most projectors have a % zoom that does not effect picture quality, so you will be ok. My current one is also 3D. I will look to measure throw and let you know model when back home. Details escape me at the moment.
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No problem if you ask other questions as well Eldrick.
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So I've got it narrowed down to 3 these models.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...00A3-_-Product

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...9SIA7RD2X27861

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...-236-_-Product

Any thoughts? Is the higher contrast ratio better? Again, I need this to display a very decent picture in daylight settings. The throw ratio is correct for 3 of them.

Thanks.
You are comparing 3 different native resolutions. The EH415 is the only true HD 1080p projector. The W is a 1280x800 (close to 720p) and the X is a 4:3 ratio 1024x768. If you want HD, there is only one choice, the EH

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/compa...EG_1085033-REG
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How does resolution play into a better picture quality in daylight? If it doesn't make much of a difference I'd prefer to go with a model that would preform better in those settings.

My throw distance is exactly 74", and when I input that into projectorcentral I don't get many models with the higher lumen output that actually work. How does the zoom feature on the W316ST, or even the EH415 affect the ability to adjust for that throw distance and keep the 48" high x 96" wide screen size that I need from a distance of 74"?
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How does resolution play into a better picture quality in daylight? If it doesn't make much of a difference I'd prefer to go with a model that would preform better in those settings.

My throw distance is exactly 74", and when I input that into projectorcentral I don't get many models with the higher lumen output that actually work. How does the zoom feature on the W316ST, or even the EH415 affect the ability to adjust for that throw distance and keep the 48" high x 96" wide screen size that I need from a distance of 74"?
Resolution won't affect how it is seen in light, it is just the overall quality of the image being displayed.

Do you want blu-ray quality (1080p), TV quality (~720p), or standard def?

Really depends on what images you are putting up there. I.E. if you are putting up complex architectural designs, you will likely want the higher resolution. If you are throwing up text as messages, then the resolution won't matter as much.
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I am actually just throwing up JPEG images that display part outlines on a 4x8 sheet of wood. Right now our main problem with our existing projector is the bulb replacement and not being able to see the numbers on the parts properly due to the projector not preforming as well in daylight settings.

I am totally fine with the 720p if it preforms better in daylight settings.
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What is your current projector? Is the wood painted or coated? Do you have any flexibility on moving it closer or farther? You are in between the typical short throw range and long throw range, so there aren't a lot of options. For your situation I'd be looking at an LCD, not DLP.

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This is what we currently have.

http://www.necdisplay.com/p/multimed...s?type=support

We could move it a bit further away, but it would be a bit of an issue.

https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2497737,00.asp

What about that?
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Sorry, I re-read your original post. Can you place it anywhere form 0 ft to 7 ft?
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Just moved into new (to us) home that has 20 ft ceilings in family room. We are considering the idea of a projector for one of the walls. There is no where to hang the projector, so am looking at UST, so unit could be placed on ~2 ft wall shelf
Here is one I am looking at
https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronic...b526c70b5&th=1

Probably something like this for a screen, as UST on a painted wall is not recommended.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HZRM9K0...-20&th=1&psc=1

Here is review of projector
https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2492874,00.asp
It would be pretty much exclusively used for evening viewing, so while not black out theater conditions it would be reasonably dark in room.

Would like any opinions on what the resident experts may have to say.
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Sorry, I re-read your original post. Can you place it anywhere form 0 ft to 7 ft?
Not really. We could redo the way it is currently mounted but it would be a lot of work.
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Just moved into new (to us) home that has 20 ft ceilings in family room. We are considering the idea of a projector for one of the walls. There is no where to hang the projector, so am looking at UST, so unit could be placed on ~2 ft wall shelf
I have my Epson projector set up on a shelf in the back of my basement that has lower ceilings. Works great just you can see people standing up. But that being said long room projecting to a 120'' screen.
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I have my Epson projector set up on a shelf in the back of my basement that has lower ceilings. Works great just you can see people standing up. But that being said long room projecting to a 120'' screen.
Only place I can mount a projector is ~20ft away (ceiling mount) or as ultra short throw on shelf right at wall base.
Maybe I haven't explored 20 ft throw possibilities enough.
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The issue with going that far back is you need a brighter projector, particularly because you say you don't have a lot of control over ambient light.
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