[GDT] Predators vs Flames - 7:30 - SNet1

[FiveSeven]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

And this is why the current lottery form sucks balls.

The minute a club appears they'll miss playoffs (even though they haven't been mathematically eliminated) fans, and very likely club staff, turn their attention to the draft. I hate that.

I wish all 14 teams who miss the playoffs have a 1/14th chance of getting the top pick. That will do away will all tanking and fan apathy. I really hate that fans are already losing interest in the outcomes of games. Wtf is the point of playing the games then?

Yeah I agree. At the same time then they'll just tank thinking lets secure second overall and hope for 1st lol.

[nik-]

I hate the All Star break

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

And this is why the current lottery form sucks balls.

The minute a club appears they'll miss playoffs (even though they haven't been mathematically eliminated) fans, and very likely club staff, turn their attention to the draft. I hate that.

I wish all 14 teams who miss the playoffs have a 1/14th chance of getting the top pick. That will do away will all tanking and fan apathy. I really hate that fans are already losing interest in the outcomes of games. Wtf is the point of playing the games then?

totally agree, and the NHL points system...Nashville has 2 more wins than Calgary but 9 more points

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Raymond likely a placeholder for Jooris or Colborne

True. Though I wouldn't mind him in against the Preds (but not on that line).

Originally Posted by codynw

It's sad that Jooris is the least frustrating out of those 3.

Colborne's been hot the last two games. He did a lot with minimal ice time last game.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

totally agree, and the NHL points system...Nashville has 2 more wins than Calgary but 9 more points

I don't complain overly about loser points as from year to year that changes for every team as some years you win a lot of games in OT and SO and others you don't. Every team has exactly the same 164 points available to them at the start of the season so how you go about attaining them really doesn't matter and if you are behind by 9 points it is what it is regardless of how either team attained their points.

The bigger issue for the Flames and the reason they likely have very little chance of making the playoffs is because of parity as the Flames would have to leapfrog four other teams just to be tied with Nashville. It's one thing to gain ground on one or two teams but there's too many teams right now between the Flames and a playoff spot. They would need to go on another 8 game winning streak and after that still play at a high level as winning 8 in a row and then playing .500 or worse after won't get it done. It's getting close to time to evaluate players that can be moved at the trade deadline.

[Poe969]

I don't mind the 3 point game system, what gets me is the playoff format with the wildcard. I liked it a lot more when the top 8 from each side made the playoffs that way you don't have a team from a terrible division make it ahead of better teams.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by metal_geek

Would love to see Jooris get a shot with Monahan and Gaudreau. Love what jooris brings but don't think his style of play meshes with Gaudreau. Here's hoping they catch some lightning in a bottle!..

He did like two games ago I believe.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

He did like two games ago I believe.

They played together as a line for portions of the game against Dallas. Very small sample size.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

I don't mind the 3 point game system, what gets me is the playoff format with the wildcard. I liked it a lot more when the top 8 from each side made the playoffs that way you don't have a team from a terrible division make it ahead of better teams.

That happened in the old format too. Especially when everyone in the SE division sucked.

[Poe969]

It always happens when because a team in the west would have more points then a team in the east but it's likely to happen again this year where a team with less points makes it and a team with more points sits out. I liked the old school 8 east teams and 8 west teams. That's just me. Not a fan of this wildcard bs.

[DynastyEra]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

And this is why the current lottery form sucks balls.

The minute a club appears they'll miss playoffs (even though they haven't been mathematically eliminated) fans, and very likely club staff, turn their attention to the draft. I hate that.

I wish all 14 teams who miss the playoffs have a 1/14th chance of getting the top pick. That will do away will all tanking and fan apathy. I really hate that fans are already losing interest in the outcomes of games. Wtf is the point of playing the games then?

I can't remember where I read it but someone had a pretty good solution to teams packing it in once they are on the outside looking in..

The team with the best record AFTER being mathematically eliminated gets the best chance to win the pick. That gives the worst teams more time to accumulate points, and the order is determined by the non-playoff teams records. It's not so much that these teams suck, they just give up, its hard to motivate the locker room when you're planning your summer holidays on the bench between shifts.

So doing it this way gives the team new life, gives the fans some entertaining hockey, and essentially you're playing for the 1st overall. Sort of a game within the game. It's good for everyone. Injects some pride into "winning" the pick. "We earned it"

Obviously the flaw is in that if a team has an awful record during that period, shouldn't they truly NEED the 1st overall? Well, teams suck for a lot of reasons not related to roster parts. In today's game, any team has the roster to compete for the cup. I just think its the best way to get out of the "tanking" mentality. Hockey is a product after all, who the hell would spend hundreds of dollars for the 81st game in the season?
Would you go see that same game if it was to see your team win Auston Matthews?

I may be missing details but I really liked this idea, or any variation with minor detail changes.

[Poe969]

I'm surprised no one has made some kind of Photoshop with a picture of one of our guys chasing Neal or someone with the "To Catch a Predator" on it.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by DynastyEra

I can't remember where I read it but someone had a pretty good solution to teams packing it in once they are on the outside looking in..

The team with the best record AFTER being mathematically eliminated gets the best chance to win the pick. That gives the worst teams more time to accumulate points, and the order is determined by the non-playoff teams records. It's not so much that these teams suck, they just give up, its hard to motivate the locker room when you're planning your summer holidays on the bench between shifts.

So doing it this way gives the team new life, gives the fans some entertaining hockey, and essentially you're playing for the 1st overall. Sort of a game within the game. It's good for everyone. Injects some pride into "winning" the pick. "We earned it"

Obviously the flaw is in that if a team has an awful record during that period, shouldn't they truly NEED the 1st overall? Well, teams suck for a lot of reasons not related to roster parts. In today's game, any team has the roster to compete for the cup. I just think its the best way to get out of the "tanking" mentality. Hockey is a product after all, who the hell would spend hundreds of dollars for the 81st game in the season?
Would you go see that same game if it was to see your team win Auston Matthews?

I may be missing details but I really liked this idea, or any variation with minor detail changes.

The NHL has made a bunch of bad changes to the draft lottery lately IMO. I'm not sure why making the top 3 picks all up to lottery got a stamp of approval. Puts randomness and luck into the equation and has the potential to crush an awful team. You could be historically, sub 50 points bad and get 4th overall. The difference between Ovechkin and Ladd. Crosby and Pouliot.

[FBI]

That system would still benefit whoever was mathematically eliminated first, some teams may have 20 games and go 4-16 and beat out the team that was mathematically eliminated with 4 games and went 3-1.

[hwy19man]

Centre Ice channels for:
Wednesday, January 27
Nashville at Calgary, 1930h Mountain
Flames feed in red

Game is on the Sportsnet One in Canada, therefore it is not on Centre Ice.

USA
Indemand - Game 3 SD Game HD3
Directv - 771 SD 771-1 HD
Dish - 576 SD 9544 HD Hopper channel 475-04

Sirius Radio-- Siri 91 (Internet 926)
XM Radio-- XM 91
SXM Radio-- SXM 91

[CroFlames]

Why not just have 14 balls in the barrel representing the 14 teams who missed. You draw 1 to 14, and that is the order of the first 14 picks. Voila. If your team still sucks, find a new GM. Don't rely on the draft lottery.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Why not just have 14 balls in the barrel representing the 14 teams who missed. You draw 1 to 14, and that is the order of the first 14 picks. Voila. If your team still sucks, find a new GM. Don't rely on the draft lottery.

Yeah, let's give the Kings Jack Eichel last year. Just what the other 29 teams need.

[goflamesgo18]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Why not just have 14 balls in the barrel representing the 14 teams who missed. You draw 1 to 14, and that is the order of the first 14 picks. Voila. If your team still sucks, find a new GM. Don't rely on the draft lottery.

This is how it should work for sure

[HotHotHeat]

Why are the Preds so hush hush on who's starting in net?

[dammage79]

Rinne has been red hot on this road trip the Preds are on. If the Flames get him tonight it'll be a tough task. Even if we get Hutton tonight it may be tough. Good thing is, the Preds can't score just like the Flames. Might be a bit of a boring night.

Than again Gaudreau is at home so he may light the offense up a bit. Just want a good night from the FW's.