[News] UPD: Arbitrator upholds Voynov's 1 yr suspension but credits him 41 games served

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Samuelsson

Without meaning to be inflammatory, I hope that's not how Canada runs its legal system.

Anyway, the NHL are right to ban him; as long as they do the same to all future players who commit the same or an equivalent offence, and I hope the public outcry is just as loud for those times, too.

It is how the legal system works - there are plenty of presumptions in evidential matters. For exampple, any statement given at the time of an event is generally more credible than one given later, especially after possible coercion. This is especially so with spousal testimony in a domestic violence case. She would be treated as a hostile witness and subject to cross-examination, not direct examination.

[PeteMoss]

No one is going to sign him. He's not good enough to take the PR hit involved.

Comparing the incident to Bertuzzi is ridiculous.

Hating Bertuzzi and the fact the Flames signed him is fine, a lot of us are in the same boat. But its not the same thing as beating your wife.

[cannon7]

Wait, so Voynov wasn't put to death? I'm writing my congressman immediately.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
The NHLPA has filed an appeal on behalf of Slava Voynov. The appeal will be heard by an impartial arbitrator.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

News Update

Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
The NHLPA has filed an appeal on behalf of Slava Voynov. The appeal will be heard by an impartial arbitrator.

Knew that was coming. Hopefully the arbitrator tells them to pound sand. I wonder how other players feel about their association going to war for this guy.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I'm sure Voynov's wife will be sitting beside him at the first press conference. The fact the couple are reconciled plays into the public perception of these things.

Only to a few people, most people will likely understand how abuse works, particularly when there are millions of dollars involved.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Only to a few people, most people will likely understand how abuse works, particularly when there are millions of dollars involved.

So you find it impossible to believe Voynov's wife forgives and loves him? It may seem hard for us to understand, but sometimes couples do genuinely reconcile after domestic abuse.

As for the millions, the fact Voynov made piles of money means it would be easier for his wife to just walk away than it would be if he was a drywaller or truck driver. She would have been set up comfortably with half his money.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Knew that was coming. Hopefully the arbitrator tells them to pound sand. I wonder how other players feel about their association going to war for this guy.

Probably the same as anything. The union probably feels the NHL overstepped their rights and the Union is defending the rights of their players. Its a slippery slope if you appeal some things and not others.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

So you find it impossible to believe Voynov's wife forgives and loves him? It may seem hard for us to understand, but sometimes couples do genuinely reconcile after domestic abuse.

As for the millions, the fact Voynov made piles of money means it would be easier for his wife to just walk away than it would be if he was a drywaller or truck driver. She would have been set up comfortably with half his money.

Abused wives of serial abusers almost always forgive them. Repeatedly. Often until they get killed or end up in the hospital for a while.

Whether or not she forgives him buys him no benefit for me.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
NHL/NHLPA announce arbitrator rules Slavs Voynov must serve a one-year suspension. He is credited for 41 games served, meaning he must sit 41 more.

[sureLoss]

Interesting way for the Arbitrator to please both sides.

By upholding Bettman's suspension he helps the NHL set precedent for this kind of behaviour.

By saying Voynov already served 41 games he lets Voynov and the NHLPA walk away with a reduced suspension.

In other words he reduced the suspension without officially reducing the suspension.

[Moneyhands23]

I hope he gets zero offers.

[Psytic]

Oilers are already penciling him in.

[sureLoss]

Kings say they won't sign Voynov.

Unless there is more to this story they retain Voynov's rights so they could potentially get an asset if another team wants Voynov.

https://www.nhl.com/kings/news/la-ki...ov/c-307529286

"Today the NHL arbitrator rendered a final decision on further discipline to Slava Voynov. From our perspective, the player will not be playing for the Kings. We will now determine the impact of the arbitrator's decision on our rights to the player and consider our options going forward."

[N-E-B]

Good for LA. He shouldn’t be playing in the NHL.

[Geeoff]

TBH the Kings should just sign Voynov. It would make their ####ty team better and I already hate them, so what's one more ######bag on the team?

[Resolute 14]

I'd be curious to know what clauses of the CBA the arbitrator used to justify that 41 game credit.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Kings say they won't sign Voynov.

Unless there is more to this story they retain Voynov's rights so they could potentially get an asset if another team wants Voynov.

https://www.nhl.com/kings/news/la-ki...ov/c-307529286

Which is garbage. They terminated his contract, why should they still retain his rights? Oh wait, it is the Kings and they can do what they want.

[Ice]

Any team would have the same rights. The contract termination involved a “voluntary retirement” which keeps the players rights with the team. The Kings have no interest in Voynov, and neither do any of the teams rumored via social media. I doubt Voynov ever plays in the NHL again. No team is that desperate for defense.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Ice

I doubt Voynov ever plays in the NHL again. No team is that desperate for defense.

It seems you're a long way from the stench that is Edmonton, there isn't a more desperate team period.