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[Smartcar]

Nm

[malcolmk14]

3.5% of sales, 2% of liquor.

2.5% to the kitchen, 1% to the front of house, 2% of liquor to the bar.

[Ducay]

Reminds me how I keep forgetting to lower my tip %s for the new minimum wage.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Ducay

Reminds me how I keep forgetting to lower my tip %s for the new minimum wage.

I think cutting the tipping rate by a percentage equal to the percentage wage increase is good. Tipping 9% or 10% rather than 15% seems reasonable.

At $10.20 an hour, and $9.20 for employees serving liquor, Alberta's minimum wage was tied for the lowest in Canada when Rachel Notley became Premier in May, 2015...
...on Oct. 1, 2015, the provincial minimum wage was increased by a dollar. Further increases in 2016 and 2017 led to the current rate of $13.60 and eliminated the lower wage for workers who serve liquor.

On Oct. 1, 2018, the Alberta minimum wage will reach $15 an hour, a 47-per-cent increase over four years.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

I think cutting the tipping rate by a percentage equal to the percentage wage increase is good.

If you've decided that servers were making exactly the right amount of money before, what you should do is figure out the number of clients a server has per hour, divide $5 by that number (or weigh your contribution to their gross salse), and reduce your tip by that amount. Your math only works if servers make roughly half of their income from tips.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by SebC

If you've decided that servers were making exactly the right amount of money before, what you should do is figure out the number of clients a server has per hour, divide $5 by that number (or weigh your contribution to their gross salse), and reduce your tip by that amount. Your math only works if servers make roughly half of their income from tips.

Yeah its probably easier to stop tipping all together.

[Cole436]

We tip out 7%
3.2% to FOH
3% to BOH
0.8% to management

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Cole436

We tip out 7%
3.2% to FOH
3% to BOH
0.8% to management

Damn, management fat cats getting tips. What a sweet life.

[taco.vidal]

Originally Posted by Cole436

We tip out 7%
3.2% to FOH
3% to BOH
0.8% to management

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Damn, management fat cats getting tips. What a sweet life.

Another reason to not tip.

[calumniate]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

Another reason to not tip.

Yeah best to just let them die in the funny cool picture threads

[justkidding]

I’m curious because I’ve never really thought too much about this before. If I tip 20% on my total bill does that money not get split up between everyone that works in the restaurant? Is what is collected in tips irrelevant to what is paid out and it’s only based on sales?

[Swarly]

Originally Posted by justkidding

I’m curious because I’ve never really thought too much about this before. If I tip 20% on my total bill does that money not get split up between everyone that works in the restaurant? Is what is collected in tips irrelevant to what is paid out and it’s only based on sales?

Yes, at most places anyway. The server gets 20% and gives a tipout, usually 4-8% depending on the place, to the 'others' that gets divided between back of house (cooks, dishwashers) and hosts/hostess, runners, type people.

so if a server sold $1000 of food and drinks in a night, they would have $200 (assuming everyone tipped 20%) and they would have to pay between $40-$80 to the tipout.

and based on my time at Denny's, if you aren't making at least $200 in tips you are a crap server, I'm a socially awkward dude that barely tried to make conversation, I just got peoples order right and quick. So at that time, I was paid $9.60/hour in wage but I earned another $15/hour in tips. Denny's only had a 4% tip out.

[GGG]

But if on a $500 bill the group throws in bills and one guy is real cheap and there is only $510 the server is out 15-30 bucks depending on tip out.

But yes increasing your tip only goes to the waitress though anyone who tips less than 6% or so to cover tip outs is a legitimately horrible person.

[DoubleK]

Most places add 18% on groups, so your example is highly unlikely.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by GGG

But if on a $500 bill the group throws in bills and one guy is real cheap and there is only $510 the server is out 15-30 bucks depending on tip out.

But yes increasing your tip only goes to the waitress though anyone who tips less than 6% or so to cover tip outs is a legitimately horrible person.

What???

[Rutuu]

Go Aussie style. Get a bunch of numbers, have people order at the bar, just have runners to deliver food to the numbers...Eliminate tipping altogether. Get rid of 2/3rds of the front of house. 😉

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

What???

Given the knowledge that a tip out exists if you go to a restaurant and don't tip enough to cover tip out you are stealing from this person.

If you are gleefully unaware of how the restaurant industry works than you just are ignorant and should educate yourself.

If you speings1 someone over a lack of ranch dressing and they have to pay to serve you you are stealing from them.

[La Flames Fan]

Funny thread timing...

Just got back from a 10-Day trip to Paris where tipping is essentially non-existent. You can tip a bit, but for the most part it's built into the price of the meal/drink/taxi. Maybe 5% or round up to the nearest $.

Have to admit I loved it. Everyone seemed really happy, no rude drivers or wait staff...so much easier to pay as well.

[manwiches]

My dad's restaurant, we used to tip out 3.5%. When he sold it, and I awkwardly stuck around for a few months, they bumped it up to 5%.

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by GGG

Given the knowledge that a tip out exists if you go to a restaurant and don't tip enough to cover tip out you are stealing from this person.

#### off. The restaurant is stealing from the person. Literally robbing Peter to pay Paul.


EDIT: It isn't being "gleefully unaware" of how the system works. It's a broken system. There's one price on the bill you are obligated to pay, everything else is added on at my discretion. If that isn't enough to pay the staff, that isn't my problem. I could put $0 and if that results in a person not getting paid enough, that is their employers fault and should be their problem, not mine.