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Biden 6 66.67%
Trump 3 33.33%
Kanye/other/Independent 0 0%
Would not vote 0 0%
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Old 11-10-2020, 03:52 PM   #5721
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I need to do some research but I heard that in 2016 certain electors ignored a state's popular vote and went their own way (might have been against Clinton).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithl...ntial_election
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Yeah, a lot of them would also disagree that Trump lost. That doesn't make it so.

As I said, I'm not going to assume that anyone who voted for Trump is a racist. I'm not calling anyone who voted for Trump racist.
What I'm saying is they definitely voted for someone who is demonstrably racist (amongst other things).

As I said, they can try to square that any way they want. But to argue that they didn't vote for someone who is racist means they are either completely ignorant (willfully or otherwise), or they aren't being honest.

Voting for someone who clearly displays certain traits or behaviors doesn't mean you share those same traits or behaviors, but it does mean that you do not see them as important/egregious enough to disqualify that person from your list of acceptable leaders.

Put another way:
Voting for Trump does not mean you are racist.
Voting for Trump does mean, at best, you think it is acceptable for your leader to be racist provided they agree with you on what you think are more important issues.

That's not true. People can vote for Trump and believe he is not racist which makes them neither of those two things.
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Old 11-10-2020, 03:59 PM   #5723
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That's not true. People can vote for Trump and believe he is not racist which makes them neither of those two things.
Then it makes them, at best, willfully ignorant and, at worst, downright stupid.

Do we really need to go over all of this yet again?
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"Faith Spotted Eagle (Dakota: Tunkan Inajin Win[1] or Tȟuŋkáŋ Inážiŋ Win pronounced [tˣũkã́ ináʒĩ win] "Standing Stone"; born 1948) is a Native American activist and politician. She is a member of the Yankton Sioux Nation who attempted to block development of the Keystone XL pipeline and eventually succeeded in blocking the development of the Dakota Access Pipeline.[2]

In the 2016 presidential election, she became the first Native American to receive an electoral vote for President of the United States as well as one of the first two women to receive an electoral vote for President of the United States.[3] Spotted Eagle's single vote came from Robert Satiacum Jr., a faithless elector in Washington, who cast it for her instead of Hillary Clinton."
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I propose we fund a Chernobyl dome over the WH and then concrete-in all exits.
Make it (in the words of Larry Kudlow)... "pretty close to air tight".
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That's not true. People can vote for Trump and believe he is not racist which makes them neither of those two things.
People believe lots of things that are wrong.
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Then it makes them, at best, willfully ignorant and, at worst, downright stupid.

Do we really need to go over all of this yet again?
That's the game of the troll. Revisit issues well beyond discussion anymore, simply because it pisses the board off. So please keep engaging Huldrefolk as it is what feeds him and gives meaning to his pathetic little life. If we all ignore him he will retreat to his bridge and search for another site where he can obnoxiously ply his craft.
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Old 11-10-2020, 04:04 PM   #5728
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Shocking. Amazing that people will fess up when they find out they can go to jail.


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Then it makes them, at best, willfully ignorant and, at worst, downright stupid.

Do we really need to go over all of this yet again?
So much for Biden's unity.
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That's not true. People can vote for Trump and believe he is not racist which makes them neither of those two things.
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Then it makes them, at best, willfully ignorant and, at worst, downright stupid.

Do we really need to go over all of this yet again?
What Yamer said.
But yeah, I guess you're right BoLevi.
I suppose I could add "Don't pay close enough attention to the person they are voting for that they completely missed one of the defining characteristics of who he is as a person, or don't think all the racist things he has done indicate that he is in fact racist."

Glad we cleared that up.
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Old 11-10-2020, 04:09 PM   #5731
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I don't have an issue with people that decided to vote for Trump if it was for policy reasons, but have acknowledged that enough of the country voted to go in another direction this time.

I do have an issue with people that decided to vote Trump if they believe that he outright won, shouldn't concede and that a nationwide vote that has been conducted for decades was somehow rigged.
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So much for Biden's unity.
Okay Bo let's see if you can answer a few simple questions.

1) Do you think Donald Trump is racist?
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So much for Biden's unity.
You can educate the stupid and ignorant, but it's much harder to redeem the dishonest.
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People believe lots of things that are wrong.
Both sides of this issue ... Which comprise roughly half of the American population in each... Think the other side is wrong.

Trafficking in certainties when there is such broad disagreement seems divisive. It's also why the disagreement over Trump seems more like religious beliefs than rational ones.
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Both sides of this issue ... Which comprise roughly half of the American population in each... Think the other side is wrong.

Trafficking in certainties when there is such broad disagreement seems divisive. It's also why the disagreement over Trump seems more like religious beliefs than rational ones.
BoLevi,

Yes or No question:

Do you believe Donald Trump is racist?
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Why do you people keep doing this?

Lab rats learn after stimulus is applied a few times.
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Old 11-10-2020, 04:17 PM   #5737
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Guys, the troll stirred up this exact same conversation and is following the exact same script as three days ago. Go peek the post history, same stuff, same boring pseudo-intellectualism. We're minutes away from him calling posts uninteresting. Why bother pretend this is going to go any other way?

Republicans talk about denying election results, calling to arms, violent uprising?
*crickets*

Canadian posters say mean things about Trump supporters?
"Well geeze about that Biden unity huh geeze I guess the intolerant left has some soul searching to do to fix this gregarious problem plaguing our system for which they are responsible! Oh sorry, I didn't answer your question because I find it uninteresting to me!"

Rinse, repeat.
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That's not true. People can vote for Trump and believe he is not racist which makes them neither of those two things.
True, it does though make them dumber than my kids gerbil, and that things been dead for 5 years
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