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Old 09-16-2020, 08:23 AM   #1921
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So you want it to appear more dangerous than the data says it is?

Over or under blown perception is entirely relative, but I don’t want to push peoples perceptions either way based on inaccurate information.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:35 AM   #1922
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A quarter of Canadians think the risks of Covid are over blown. Having them say someone died of covid then retracting that just a couple days later will just reinforce those positions.
Well that's dumb.
They quickly corrected the information.
I see nothing wrong with that. Transparency and honesty.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:37 AM   #1923
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Well that's dumb.
They quickly corrected the information.
I see nothing wrong with that. Transparency and honesty.
I agree, but I don't think the people who downplay the risks will agree.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:41 AM   #1924
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I agree, but I don't think the people who downplay the risks will agree.
My experience is that those folks feel what they feel absent any real data - so nothing is going to really change their minds either way.
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:30 AM   #1925
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The correction should give any reasonable person more confidence in how the numbers being handled. It would've been easy to just ignore it, but they changed the classification after an autopsy in order to maintain accuracy.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:12 AM   #1926
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A quarter of Canadians think the risks of Covid are over blown. Having them say someone died of covid then retracting that just a couple days later will just reinforce those positions.
Depending on what source you read the risk is "overblown". There are certainly sources that state the risk is much worse than it is. Everything is relative. For example when the initial data came out, sources were stating the death rate was likely to be 2%+. That's definitely "overblown". Conversely, if you want to find sources underestimated the risk, you can do that too.

Call me old-fashioned, but the population deserves to hear the truth.
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Old 09-16-2020, 12:42 PM   #1927
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They should probably be a little more careful before they tell the population that a 20 something died from Covid when the individual didn't. Really, an announcement like that should be vetted a little bit before it's released. But yes, they should tell the truth when they've done wrong.
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They should probably be a little more careful before they tell the population that a 20 something died from Covid when the individual didn't. Really, an announcement like that should be vetted a little bit before it's released. But yes, they should tell the truth when they've done wrong.
Assumes they weren't careful.
They are reporting information about deaths on a daily basis. If they start to delay reporting because they want to make sure they are accurate with every detail - they will get criticized for being slow in reporting
They thought the person died of covid
When they learned he didn't, they corrected.

With all going on right now, I don't see a big problem here. Unless there is a pattern of inaccuracy in their reporting - but I'm not aware of any.
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Old 09-16-2020, 04:51 PM   #1929
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171 new cases out of 12,540 tests
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62 confirmed cases in 45 Schools. 8 schools with outbreak (2-4 cases) 1 school in Calgary under "watch" with 5+ cases.
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Old 09-17-2020, 01:52 PM   #1930
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I remember people saying - way back in March - that a very effective way to stop this disease from killing the most people would be to protect the elderly and vulnerable.
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They should probably be a little more careful before they tell the population that a 20 something died from Covid when the individual didn't. Really, an announcement like that should be vetted a little bit before it's released. But yes, they should tell the truth when they've done wrong.
Sorry what is this post referencing?
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Old 09-17-2020, 02:04 PM   #1932
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The Ontario Government has just reduced safe gathering numbers in Toronto, Peel and Ottawa to 10 people indoors and 25 outdoors. So it's not safe to have more than 10 people inside, but a classroom in these same regions can still have upwards of 32 children.

How on earth are they this stupid?
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I remember people saying - way back in March - that a very effective way to stop this disease from killing the most people would be to protect the elderly and vulnerable.
We'll see in about 3-4 months who was correct on this. Sweden's strategy was about leaving life as normal as possible while protecting the elderly.

If doesn't get a second wave but Canada does, it's pretty strong evidence to suggest that Canada took the wrong route, and that Sweden's approach was correct.
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The Ontario Government has just reduced safe gathering numbers in Toronto, Peel and Ottawa to 10 people indoors and 25 outdoors. So it's not safe to have more than 10 people inside, but a classroom in these same regions can still have upwards of 32 children.

How on earth are they this stupid?
Because the goal behind the regulation is to reduce spread. It isnít that it is safe or unsafe. By reducing community based spread by limiting non-essential gathering at a lower point you protect schools from being shutdown.

The goal is a community wide RT of 1. It doesnít matter where you reduce the spread from.
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How long have you guys waited for a test result lately? My five year old got his in like 28 hours. I got tested yesterday and haven't heard back yet.
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How long have you guys waited for a test result lately? My five year old got his in like 28 hours. I got tested yesterday and haven't heard back yet.
Took my results 3 days, but I was showing symptoms. I was negative. This was 3 weeks ago.
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My experience is that those folks feel what they feel absent any real data - so nothing is going to really change their minds either way.
The concern is further entrenchment of dumb ideas by doing things like that. Yes they probably aren't going to have their minds changed but I think as time goes on more people will start to question things and these types of circumstances don't help that. I don't waiting 2 extra days to confirm cause of death is a big deal.

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Old 09-17-2020, 04:38 PM   #1938
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Alberta is ending Asymptomatic testing. 230,000 asymptomatic tests revealed about 7 cases per 10,000 tests.

Only those with symptoms, close contacts and high risk can get testing.
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:02 PM   #1939
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How long have you guys waited for a test result lately? My five year old got his in like 28 hours. I got tested yesterday and haven't heard back yet.
Had my 7 year old tested (with symptoms) Monday at 1:30. We received a negative test result via text by noon Tuesday.

I think the recent introduction of text message results (introduced sept 10th) has sped things up considerably
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:07 PM   #1940
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Same experience. 4 year old was testing because of the sniffles. The family was tested and she had her results in about 24 hours, the rest of us (asymptomatic) 72 hours.
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