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dino7c · 03-13-2019, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by the2bears

Per NHL.com:

So no, Winnipeg would not have home-ice advantage.

Well that changes everything...I guess I'm okay with the current format

djsFlames · 03-13-2019, 06:23 PM

Playing San Jose or Vegas in the first round / first two will get old very fast.

Different story if it was Vancouver or Edmonton. But alas, they suck.

Just like how Anaheim being in our way for over a decade was pretty maddening. I personally was always more of a fan of the 1v8, 2v7, 3v6.. format because of the variation of opponents.

dino7c · 03-13-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Resolute 14

How does one team having a good record prove or disprove the statement?

That's like saying it's true the Central is better because the Jets are destroying the Pacific. (last night notwithstanding.)

Overall the Pacific owns the Central head to head

CGY12 · 03-13-2019, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by the2bears

Per NHL.com:

So no, Winnipeg would not have home-ice advantage.

I was confused because when I checked tsn.ca and looked at the conference standings they have the Jets above the Flames, then I vividly remembered in the last few years a team starting on the road despite having finished with a better record than the opposition (can't recall the teams).

NHL.com has the standings properly set though. Good news because I would be furious if it was the other way around.

heep223 · 03-13-2019, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbob

The other thing he mentioned was that part of the original NHL suggestion when they switched to the current format, was that the Semi finals would have been reseeded with the final 4 teams. So if the teams were TB, WASH, CGY, and WPG. The match up would be CGY vs WASH and TB vs WPG.

he didn't recall why that was taken out.

I believe they took out the reseeding because the US broadcasters love the bracket format, a la March Madness.

Hoop27 · 03-13-2019, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dissentowner

Jesus, sorry to hear you had a stroke.

Thanks. Last 6 months have been seizure--brain surgery---stroke---heart attack.

Still standing

I figure I'll die from a stray puck not paying attention at a game LOL

Samonadreau · 03-13-2019, 11:08 PM

There's a chance the top 3 Teams from the East and West will each be from 1 Division. Not a great look for the current format but what are you gonna do (Shoulder shrug). If the Leafs lose in the first round to Boston though there will be pressure for changes.

GeoRock · 03-13-2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

1-8 & 2-7 are the same in either format. Each year.

Ya that's why I prefer the conference ranking. The Sharks and Flames are 1 and 2 in the West at the time of writing, so right now, by conference ranking, it would be 1-8, 3-7, 2-5, 4-6 if the playoffs started today. Not bad but not great.

But the Knights are only two back of the Preds and three back of the Jets. So it's not unreasonable to be looking at 1-8 & 2-3 by conference in the first round.

Imagine finishing 2nd in the West and having to play 3rd in the West, while the top team plays the bottom and the 4th takes on the 7th. This would be a tough pill to swallow for 2&3 in my opinion.

DoubleK · 03-13-2019, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Samonadreau

There's a chance the top 3 Teams from the East and West will each be from 1 Division. Not a great look for the current format but what are you gonna do (Shoulder shrug). If the Leafs lose in the first round to Boston though there will be pressure for changes.

More divisional games would fix that. I'd take away a game against the other division in your conference and play it in your division.

Having 1/3/5 overall in the same division is a scheduling issue and not playoff format issue.

Tsawwassen · 03-14-2019, 06:24 AM

Division set up is so dumb, get rid of these silly divisions and just have 2 conferences and go 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, and 4 vs 5. Highest seed vs lowest in the next rounds. Clean and simple. Wake up Butthead and company.

Tsawwassen · 03-14-2019, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by agulati

I actually don't mind the current format. Rivalries that come out of this are better.

The same rivalries can come out of the previous format that was used.

GGG · 03-14-2019, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsawwassen

Division set up is so dumb, get rid of these silly divisions and just have 2 conferences and go 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, and 4 vs 5. Highest seed vs lowest in the next rounds. Clean and simple. Wake up Butthead and company.

Why have conferences? 1 vs 16 and top 16 if we are changing things.

heep223 · 03-14-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GGG

Why have conferences? 1 vs 16 and top 16 if we are changing things.

Because travel and broadcast schedules

The Cobra · 03-14-2019, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

It's a myth that the central is better...Flames have a solid record vs. the central and the east

The Central has zero teams below .500, the Pacific has 3.

That allows thevaflames more games against bottom feeders.

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dissentowner · 03-14-2019, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoop27

Thanks. Last 6 months have been seizure--brain surgery---stroke---heart attack.

Still standing

I figure I'll die from a stray puck not paying attention at a game LOL

I figure you won't die at all. Sounds like you have death beat lol. Good for you.

CGY12 · 03-14-2019, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

The Central has zero teams below .500, the Pacific has 3.

That allows thevaflames more games against bottom feeders.

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I would also argue that the Sharks and Knights are both better than the Jets and Preds. So although you see more games against below average teams, you play more games against stronger teams. Too subjective IMO.

Plus somebody pulled a stat showing the records between the 2 divisions and its the Pacific in a landslide.

GirlySports · 03-14-2019, 09:52 AM

I dont know if 1-8 has that much more variation. The Oilers played the Stars I believe 6 playoffs in a row.

GirlySports · 03-14-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by heep223

I believe they took out the reseeding because the US broadcasters love the bracket format, a la March Madness.

Except the NFL, king of all everything, re-seeds after Round 1.

Hockey needs to stop catering to Americans. I miss old division and conference names. Today no American knows why the Campbell Bowl is named as such.

Flamenspiel · 03-14-2019, 10:05 AM

Its fine with the current format, last year everyone was complaining that the Jets and Predators were the best teams in the whole league and it was a shame they were playing so early. It turned out that Vegas was better.

They have only had one Stanley Cup winner from the Atlantic division in all the years of its existence, yet this year they are decent so lets change the whole thing?

Also please keep the current qualification number of teams the same, no league has more the 16 playoff teams, its too high as it is. Personally I really liked the baseball format when only 4 teams made it. Football was really good when they only had the one wild card.

The Cobra · 03-14-2019, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CGY12

I would also argue that the Sharks and Knights are both better than the Jets and Preds. So although you see more games against below average teams, you play more games against stronger teams. Too subjective IMO.

Plus somebody pulled a stat showing the records between the 2 divisions and its the Pacific in a landslide.

The Pacific has the worse combined record in the NHL.

There is nothing subjective about that.

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