Circumcision, why is this a thing...

[Cain]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Support for this claim?





Woah woah, I wasn't advocating for circumcision there. I was discussing the premise that a clean person would be clean regardless. I'm saying in that my limited survey of penises, uncut are definitely not as clean which can be evidenced by the smell of urine. Sure, you would wash it every day but with a CC penis, any drips that you may have missed shaking are absorbed by your underwear, not trapped in your foreskin.

Sorry, I wasn't really attacking you on it, just exploring the thought. Not trying to put words in your mouth!

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

lol really. you gonna eat a girl out after she's been working, sweating and pissing all day. I can wash my penis without taking my pants off.

You know that FireFly is not a man, right?

[FireFly]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

lol really. you gonna eat a girl out after she's been working, sweating and pissing all day. I can wash my penis without taking my pants off.

Bravo.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by wretched34

It is pretty weird that they are rendering infants completely immobile so to capture brain function on an MRI while causing physical trauma to said child.
Perhaps a woman receiving breast implants following a mastectomy should have the operation performed without anesthetic while completely immobilized in an MRI, so they can study the effect that cosmetic surgery has on her brain.

We know physical trauma has an effect on the brain, wouldn't the effects of said trauma not be more easily identified later in life? Like asking the guy outside the airport with fake blood stains in his pants and physically aggressive posters, how he feels?
Or you know, asking males at all stages of life how they feel about their little buddy.

you know they strap those babies down regardless of them doing an MRI.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

you know they strap those babies down regardless of them doing an MRI.

But you are missing the point, which is that the administration of an MRI is TRAUMA INDUCING. It seems bizarre to inflict a form of trauma as a means to measure the effects of trauma induced by something else.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

You know that FireFly is not a man, right?

nope, and it really doesn't matter.

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

you know they strap those babies down regardless of them doing an MRI.

Babies getting circumcised? Actually they do not, I stood beside my son and held his hand while he lay on an exam table in a doctors office and got snipped.
At no time was he completely immobilized by velcro straps on a board.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

But you are missing the point, which is that the administration of an MRI is TRAUMA INDUCING. It seems bizarre to inflict a form of trauma as a means to measure the effects of trauma induced by something else.

as someone who's had multiple MRI's this is the funniest thing I've heard. The only thing traumatizing about it was worrying about the results.

[Cain]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

But you are missing the point, which is that the administration of an MRI is TRAUMA INDUCING. It seems bizarre to inflict a form of trauma as a means to measure the effects of trauma induced by something else.

Truthfully what is bizarre is to focus on the potential trauma caused by a study that can paint a clearer picture which is what you have been asking for time and time again.

If a study inflicts a small amount of trauma to potentially end a much larger and widespread trauma is that not a gain? Pretty weird thing to fixate on. Worry about the trauma of being strapped down for an mri but not the trauma caused by cutting off part of their genitalia. Especially given that most people here seem to think that since they are a baby they won't remember it and it is therefore a nonissue.

Do you have any other ideas on how they can try to quantify it?

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

as someone who's had multiple MRI's this is the funniest thing I've heard. The only thing traumatizing about it was worrying about the results.

At any given time were you tied down against your will, and placed somewhere completely foreign and unrecognizable to you, in the dark, surrounded by loud noises?
Or were you told exactly what was going to happen, and 100% aware of your surroundings?

Because I feel like the first would be far more traumatic.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by wretched34

Babies getting circumcised? Actually they do not, I stood beside my son and held his hand while he lay on an exam table in a doctors office and got snipped.
At no time was he completely immobilized by velcro straps on a board.

Lucky you, I feel sorry for your son.

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

Lucky you, I feel sorry for your son.

Thank you, I'll pass along your sympathies to him.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by wretched34

At any given time were you tied down against your will, and placed somewhere completely foreign and unrecognizable to you, in the dark, surrounded by loud noises?
Or were you told exactly what was going to happen, and 100% aware of your surroundings?

Because I feel like the first would be far more traumatic.

lol, giving Baby MRI = bad. Cutting part of Penis off = okay.

that's a real messed up view. the mental gymnastics you have to do to get to that conclusion is baffling to me.

[Galakanokis]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

as someone who's had multiple MRI's this is the funniest thing I've heard. The only thing traumatizing about it was worrying about the results.

As someone who has taking his little girl in for multiple MRI's I can easily say you are full of #### and have no idea what you are talking about. Even sedated she completely freaked out and will still bring it up years later.

And as a cut man I can also say you are completely full of #### and have no idea what you are talking about. Honestly, get your calloused, unable to lubricate dick checked out cause that ain't right, cut or uncut. Or back off the masturbating for awhile and give the old boy a chance to come up for air and replenish his fluids.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

as someone who's had multiple MRI's this is the funniest thing I've heard. The only thing traumatizing about it was worrying about the results.

There is nothing pleasant about an MRI. You're stuck in a confined space, it is loud and uncomfortable.

So unless your MRIs took place as an infant, I'm certain you're not qualified to say what is or isn't traumatizing to a baby. And even if you did have an MRI as an infant, it is literally impossible for you to comment on something that happened when you were incapable of verbalizing or remembering at all for that matter.

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by Galakanokis

As someone who has taking his little girl in for multiple MRI's I can easily say you are full of #### and have no idea what you are talking about. Even sedated she completely freaked out and will still bring it up years later.

And as a cut man I can also say you are completely full of #### and have no idea what you are talking about. Honestly, get your calloused, unable to lubricate dick checked out cause that ain't right, cut or uncut. Or back off the masturbating for awhile and give the old boy a chance to come up for air and replenish his fluids.

are you happy being a complete A******

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Cain

Truthfully what is bizarre is to focus on the potential trauma caused by a study that can paint a clearer picture which is what you have been asking for time and time again.

If a study inflicts a small amount of trauma to potentially end a much larger and widespread trauma is that not a gain? Pretty weird thing to fixate on. Worry about the trauma of being strapped down for an mri but not the trauma caused by cutting off part of their genitalia. Especially given that most people here seem to think that since they are a baby they won't remember it and it is therefore a nonissue.

Do you have any other ideas on how they can try to quantify it?

I mean, you could ask?
Isn't that what they are trying to prove? That circumcision has a lasting effect on a person?
So how does an MRI proving they react to physical stimuli, and the brain changed due too a traumatic experience actually relate back to the circumcision itself 20 years later, when the adult male has no recollection of the actual "traumatic event".
If the whole point of the study is to prove an adverse effect to the procedure later in life, why not target all the angry men who feel they've been mutilated against their will to more substantially prove a point, rather than cause more trauma to an infant, with no way to prove adverse effects?

[TKB]

Originally Posted by Grimbl420

are you happy being a complete A******

Pot calling the kettle black?

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by TKB

Pot calling the kettle black?

I have an opinion, I'm not making personal attacks.

big difference.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by FireFly

Bravo.

While I am stilling questioning the relevance of the assertion, I am curious how somebody can wash it without taking their pants off - or is that just on a technicality.