06-05-2023, 06:35 PM
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#16401
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Eh. We’ll see if a playoff team actually trades for him. He won’t waive to come here anyways
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Not that I want him, but a minor gear grinder of mine. If a player has an NTC and requests a trade, it should invalidate their NTC.
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06-05-2023, 10:53 PM
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#16402
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Paradise
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Not that I want him, but a minor gear grinder of mine. If a player has an NTC and requests a trade, it should invalidate their NTC.
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I disagree, If this were the case it could incentivize a team to try to push a player to asking for a trade so that a ntc can be dropped.
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06-06-2023, 01:08 AM
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#16403
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Not that I want him, but a minor gear grinder of mine. If a player has an NTC and requests a trade, it should invalidate their NTC.
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It really wouldn’t ever make a difference, as it could be conveyed to the team in many different ways without actually and formally requesting a trade.
A trade request is merely a suggestion from a player that he would prefer to play elsewhere. A team has no legal obligation to honour that request. To suggest that such a request would immediately invalidate any no trade protection a player might have should also then obligate the team to trade such player within a certain period of time.
In any event,players would never agree to such a result.
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06-06-2023, 02:58 AM
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#16404
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buff
Why?
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Cheaper buyout
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06-06-2023, 06:17 AM
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#16405
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
It really wouldn’t ever make a difference, as it could be conveyed to the team in many different ways without actually and formally requesting a trade.
A trade request is merely a suggestion from a player that he would prefer to play elsewhere. A team has no legal obligation to honour that request. To suggest that such a request would immediately invalidate any no trade protection a player might have should also then obligate the team to trade such player within a certain period of time.
In any event,players would never agree to such a result.
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Yeah, did Carter request a trade from Columbus or did he just visibly pout and play incredibly badly so much they got rid of him?
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06-06-2023, 09:47 AM
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#16406
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Nonsense. His team is garbage.
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Out of goalies who played a minimum of 30 games in 22-23 Gibson finished 32nd/35 for goals saved above expected.
In 21-22 he finished 31st/35.
For comparison Markstrom finished 27th in 22-23 and 12th in 21-22.
The Ducks may be bad, but Gibson is very much part of that.
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06-06-2023, 09:57 AM
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#16407
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Not that I want him, but a minor gear grinder of mine. If a player has an NTC and requests a trade, it should invalidate their NTC.
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I’d like to see NTCs/NMCs have to be unlocked/earned - they should be reserved for players with a history of producing.
I’d also like to cap the number of Canadian teams that can be on a modified NTC list - this country provides the league with the bulk of its tv revenue. You can’t refuse to play anywhere north of the border.
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06-06-2023, 10:13 AM
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#16408
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I’d like to see NTCs/NMCs have to be unlocked/earned - they should be reserved for players with a history of producing.
I’d also like to cap the number of Canadian teams that can be on a modified NTC list - this country provides the league with the bulk of its tv revenue. You can’t refuse to play anywhere north of the border.
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What would you give the players in return? They have a union. you can't just tell them that's the way it's going to be.
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06-06-2023, 10:19 AM
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#16409
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I’d like to see NTCs/NMCs have to be unlocked/earned - they should be reserved for players with a history of producing.
I’d also like to cap the number of Canadian teams that can be on a modified NTC list - this country provides the league with the bulk of its tv revenue. You can’t refuse to play anywhere north of the border.
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…. They are earned. If you don’t think a player deserves one then you don’t offer one. If someone else offers them one, then you either misread the market or dodged a bullet.
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06-06-2023, 10:21 AM
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#16410
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
I’d like to see NTCs/NMCs have to be unlocked/earned - they should be reserved for players with a history of producing.
I’d also like to cap the number of Canadian teams that can be on a modified NTC list - this country provides the league with the bulk of its tv revenue. You can’t refuse to play anywhere north of the border.
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Define "producing". What do you say to a guy like Tanev?
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06-06-2023, 11:20 AM
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#16411
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Players are in their own right to get an NTC/NMC if offered. If you don't want it, try to negotiate it where you can have at least some teams they're willing to trade to. I get the NMC argument, but the NTC should stay. The players have families and sometimes do not want to me moved. A few prioritize family over career destination at a shot for a personal accomplishment.
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06-06-2023, 11:33 AM
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#16412
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-06-2023, 11:34 AM
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#16413
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Bye Noah.
(Don't want to see him traded but I just have this feeling they're going to move him)
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06-06-2023, 11:38 AM
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#16415
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Bye Noah.
(Don't want to see him traded but I just have this feeling they're going to move him)
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Toss in Lindholm and get something good.
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06-06-2023, 11:40 AM
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#16416
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Franchise Player
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Travis Hamonic netted a 1st and 2 2nd round picks and so did Hamilton.
I feel like Hanifin has bigger value right now to us. Two 1st round picks would be my ask.
#3 and #22 and a second round pick for Hanifin and #16.
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06-06-2023, 11:41 AM
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#16417
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonded
Toss in Lindholm and get something good.
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I could absolutely see this happening
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06-06-2023, 11:43 AM
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#16418
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Travis Hamonic netted a 1st and 2 2nd round picks and so did Hamilton.
I feel like Hanifin has bigger value right now to us. Two 1st round picks would be my ask.
#3 and #22 and a second round pick for Hanifin and #16.
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Hanifin is a UFA after next season. Control affects value.
Maybe if Columbus could get him signed to an extension, you might get that value, but with Babcock going there, I doubt any player is going to sign an extension pre-trade without seeing how things go first.
I think the dream of getting the 3OA from Columbus is dead now with Babcock there. No player is signing long term until they get to experience playing under him first.
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06-06-2023, 12:31 PM
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#16419
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Franchise Player
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If the Flyers are blowing it up I'd like Konecny on the Flames. Guy lives here in the off season too I think.
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06-06-2023, 12:36 PM
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#16420
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
If the Flyers are blowing it up I'd like Konecny on the Flames. Guy lives here in the off season too I think.
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Seems like too good of a fit. Philly might be blowing it up? Maybe a 3 way deal with Columbus involving Hanifin.
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