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Old 02-19-2018, 12:19 AM   #61
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What I think is a very cool video of a carrier flight rotation by an F-18, the tail insignia is from one of the more recognizable carrier sqadrons, VF-103 The Jolly Rogers which has a history going back to WW2.

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Old 02-19-2018, 12:26 AM   #62
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Chinese J-20 fighter released to the airforce

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/11/asia/...ntl/index.html
The weird quoting your own quoting moment. But the question is, when is a 5th Generation stealth fighter not a 5th generation stealth fighter.

The J-20 was to use a engine built for the J-20, but hey had a problem, so in their rush to production they used older engines that compromised not only the aircrafts stealth ability, but cost them its super cruise capability

http://www.businessinsider.com/china...ng-flaw-2018-2

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The older engine, the WS-10B, is basically the same kind used in the J-11 and J-10 fighters in 1998 and 2002.



Without the new engines, the J-20 can't supercruise, or fly faster than the speed of sound without igniting its afterburners, like the US's F-22 and F-35 can.
"Afterburners do make any fighter much easier to detect, track, and target using Infrared and Electro-Optical systems at closer ranges when in use," Justin Bronk, a combat-aviation expert at the Royal United Services Institute, told Business Insider.
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:37 AM   #63
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Old 02-19-2018, 12:47 AM   #64
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Ehhh,to be fair the f35 can’t supercruise either, but supercruise isn’t completely necessary for stealth, since infrared sensors are much shorter range than radar
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Ehhh,to be fair the f35 can’t supercruise either, but supercruise isn’t completely necessary for stealth, since infrared sensors are much shorter range than radar
When they were designed the F-22 and the J-20 were designed with a primary role of Air Superiority. They used the Supercruise to sprint into and close distance on enemy fighters to achieve air superiority.

They were also both extremely expensive at the time.

The F-35 is more of the traditional multi-role where its strength is based around sensing and exploiting weak spots in coverage and basically sneaking, its mission isn't quite as aggressive. While the F-35 will achieve control of the air using its sensor fusion and inter-operability and it didn't really require the Super cruise ability and its budget approach made it cheaper for other nations.

The J-20 isn't a strong air to ground platform, its not designed for that. while it can carry LS-6 Precision bombs, its less multi-role. Its designed to find enemy fighters, spring into missile range, and then use its stealth capabilities.

The F-22 was originally designed with the same mission in mind, it was a pure combination of stealth and dog fight, while denying the enemy the ability to see it.

For the F-35 a completely different mission and profile and Supercruise really doesn't help it.

With a platform like the American AWACs which has updated their IRT systems its likely that they would be able to track and vector on a afterburning J-20 aircract long before it gets into the over the horizon 100 km PL-21 missile range if the J-20 is trying to close with after burner.

The other mission for the J-20 like the F-22 is the removal of airborne radar aircraft from the battle. If the J-20 has thermal issues then that becomes a really difficult mission to achieve.
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What I think is a very cool video of a carrier flight rotation by an F-18, the tail insignia is from one of the more recognizable carrier sqadrons, VF-103 The Jolly Rogers which has a history going back to WW2.

@ 10mins or so:

'Negative, Ghostrider. The pattern is full.'

'God damn that guy!'

(I know he's just on the upwind.)
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2 x Russian SU-57 deployed to Latakia, Syria today. The twitter member originally posted a photo which was hard to believe, given the prototype status of SU-57 and the previous dubious reporting from the twitter member. However, he followed up with video to back-up his original claim.

https://twitter.com/WaelAlHussaini/s...56661308248065

The additional A-50U (Russian AWACS) makes for a total of two in Syria. The SU-35s have returned as well. It should be noted that an SU-35 chased away an F-22 over Syria back in November.

Interesting.

Other Syrian/Iraqi notes from today:

1) Russian envoy advising Saudis to back-off their support of Jihadis in Ghouta. Comment: the government has offered an avenue for insurgents to evacuate to Idlib, but they have turned down the government's offer. Syrian elite Tiger Forces massing for assault on Ghouta but will wait for further negotiations. Once they clean up Ghouta, they can turn their attention to Daraa.

2) Syrian militias (NDF) have joined with YPG in Afrin to combat Turk invasion. Comment: YPG saved many Syrian villagers from Daesh and this is NDF paying them back.

3) Iranian-backed PMU in Iraq got their hands on at least nine US M1A1 tanks and Washington wants them back. Comment: LMAO. Finders keepers, man.

4) Iraqi delegation arrived in Moscow to discuss purchase of S-400 air defense system.
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Old 02-21-2018, 11:00 PM   #68
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ok, that's a shocking development and I say that because I thought and based on everything that I read that they still only had 12 if them and they were all prototypes or test bed aircraft.

Tactically I don't get it, they really don't need that type of aircraft for this mission because they're not really fighting a first nation air defense network, nor advanced fighters or fighter bombers.

I'm wondering if this is an attempt by the Russian's to live test the 57 against American Forces in the Area. Maybe they're going to test against American AWACs and other radar platforms.

This could also be an escalation as I believe some Russians were recently killed by US backed forces.

The SU -35 is a nice aircraft, but realistically I think its just a modernization of the SU-27 with thrust vectoring and advanced avionics and control, but it does represent the varsity as far as Russian Modern Military fighters are concerned and they are manned by their best trained pilots.

I just went back to a couple of sites and sources and the 57 isn't in the Russian active airforce, so this is definitely a dragging the flag in Syria
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Just for anyone that wants to know, this is suppossedly the deployment of Russian Forces to Syria

Troop strength
4,300 personnel
Naval ships
3 Buyan-M-class corvettes
1 Gepard-class frigate
2 Admiral Grigorovich-class frigate
2 Vishnya-class intelligence ship
4 Improved Kilo-class submarines
1 Slava-class cruiser
Kuznetsov aircraft carrier battlegroup
1 Kuznetsov-class aircraft carrier
1 Kirov-class battlecruiser
2 Udaloy-class destroyers
Strategic bombers
14 Tu-22M3
6 Tu-95MSM
5 Tu-160
Tactical bombers
12 Su-24M2
8 Su-34
Attack bombers
4 Su-25SM
Fighter aircraft
4 Su-27SM
4 Su-30SM
4 Su-35S
4 MiG-29SMT Interceptor aircraft
MiG-31BM
Reconnaissance aircraft
2 A-50U
Il-20M1
Tu-214R
Attack helicopter
12 Mi-24P/35M
6 Mi-28N
4 Ka-52
Utility helicopter
4 Mi-8AMTSh
UAV
Orlan-10
Forpost
Ground arms and equipment
UGV
Uran-6
MRAP
Kamaz Typhoon
IMV
GAZ Tigr
Iveco Rys'
SRBM (presumed)
2 9K720 Iskander (SS-26) missile launchers
SAM
3 SA-22, other anti-aircraft and anti-missile weapons, including S-400, S-300VM, and Vityaz (S-350E) (unconfirmed officially)


What's interesting is the deployment of the Kuznetsov which adds about a dozen SU-33's and about 20 Mig 29 Multi-role


The Kirov nuclear powered cruiser (More like a battleship) is the Peter the Great which just went through a modernization and is the Northern Fleet Flag Ship.
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So there are a lot of questions about the Su-57 vs the F-22, especially since the Russians have called the SU57 the F-22 killer.

They're two completely different fifth generation philosophies.

The F22 is designed around the concepts of Stealth and maneuverability. In other words its designed to detect, evade, high and set up ambushes.

The SU-57 is built around the concept of speed and maneuverability. Its sensor suite is built around L band detection and infrared. The Radar is designed to see over the horizon and detect stealth, though the jury is actually going to be out on how effective it is against the F-22 and F-35. However the SU-57 because of its speed and maneuverability might be effective against the Raptor, if it can hold its detection into visible range.

Where there might be a problem with the SU-57 is that the Russians don't have the design capability, material proficiency and computing power in its design. So there might actually be questions around how stealth the SU-57 might be when faced with a plane like the F-22 or even the hyper advanced F-35.

In otherwords the Russian inexperience on Stealth design and construction might harm their first 5th generation fighter, whereas the American's are on their 4th stealth platform.
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Pretty cool, India's first female fighter pilot

https://twitter.com/user/status//966358006454767616

too bad they probably put her in the crappiest plane in their inventory
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Two more Su57 (with escort) arrived at Latakia today.
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They're supposed to only have 6 prototypes that are functional, the 7th was heavily damaged by fire.

This is pretty much a direct challenge to the Americans,
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They're supposed to only have 6 prototypes that are functional, the 7th was heavily damaged by fire
Tail numbers 509 and 511 arrived the other day; I don't know what tail numbers arrived today. It is highly likely hat at least two of these models are serialized production. Newer engines will follow in the future.
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It'd be interesting to know the tail numbers from the other day. 509 and 511 ones an avionics test frame and the other a airframe test frame.

I'm just really wondering, I doubt they're going to actually do combat roles, but I'm betting they're going to try to test them against American airborne radars to see if they can get close undetected.
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Israel releases recon photo's of the 57's on the ground

https://twitter.com/user/status/967749270139998209
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The newspaper Kommersant cited military sources as saying that the Russian fifth-generation Su-57 fighter jets were deployed to Syria to test radar systems and electronic warfare.

The Su-57s will not take part in combat missions in Syria, the sources said, adding that the decision on the deployment was made during last year's MAKS airshow in Zhukovsky outside Moscow.


https://sputniknews.com/military/201...loyment-radar/
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I think its valid, but weird. Frankly there's nothing there that they couldn't test back in Russia unless these planes are either for sale, or going to be involved in the warzone.

I mean from a defensive standpoint, unless they directly challenge American Air power and sneak up on American Awavs/ground radar they're going to learn very little that they don't know.

Unless they go face to face with a raptor they're not going to learn much.

I think that this is about upping the ante after those Russian nationals were killed.

They also want to throw a little bit of intimation out there.

The other benefit, is that they can loiter the Su-57 and record all of the radar signatures from American and allied assets.
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Sounds like Russia has been busy. Putin wants to be a Bond Villain, and Doctor Allan Parson's has been busy.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/puti...e-nuclear.html

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Russian President Vladimir Putin revealed a slew of new defense systems Thursday, including a new prototype missile that "can reach any point in the world" and a supersonic weapon that cannot be tracked by anti-missile systems.


Delivering his annual State of the Union address, Putin announced increased capabilities in the defense sector, saying that Russia "should not forget about security," following a speech that had initially focused on domestic issues. Putin also said that, if attacked, Russia was ready to use nuclear weapons.
"We see increased opportunities with the armed forces," he said. "We've done a lot to strengthen our army and navy and they are equipped with modern weaponry."


He showed the audience a video of how one of the prototype missiles would work, explaining that the new system would have no limitation on range. "It can attack any target, through the North or South Pole, it is a powerful weapon and no missile defense system will be able to withstand," the president said.


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Speaking more generally about the new developments, he said Russia had adopted 300 new models of weaponry providing the armed forces with 18 new ICBMs (intercontinental ballistic missiles), two submarine-based ballistic missiles. He added that the country had commissioned three new nuclear submarines and also increased the number of its high-precision long-range missiles.
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Is this credible or merely propaganda, Captain?
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