View Poll Results: Pick the best prospect from the following
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Adam Ruzicka
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0% |
Alexander Yelesin
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3 |
1.14% |
Andrew Nielsen
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1 |
0.38% |
Artyom Zagidulin
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3 |
1.14% |
Carl-Johan Lerby
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0% |
Demetrios Koumontzis
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2 |
0.76% |
Dmitry Zavgorodniy
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1.14% |
Dustin Wolf
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0 |
0% |
Eetu Tuulola
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2 |
0.76% |
Filip Sveningsson
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1 |
0.38% |
Glenn Gawdin
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1 |
0.38% |
Illya Nikolaev
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7 |
2.66% |
Jeremy McKenna
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0 |
0% |
Jon Gillies
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1 |
0.38% |
Josh Nodler
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0 |
0% |
Justin Kirkland
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0 |
0% |
Linus Lindstrom
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0% |
Lucas Feuk
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0% |
Luke Philp
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0 |
0% |
Martin Pospisil
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3 |
1.14% |
Matias Emilio Pettersen
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131 |
49.81% |
Matthew Phillips
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35 |
13.31% |
Milos Roman
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0% |
Mitchell Mattson
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0 |
0% |
Nick Schneider
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1 |
0.38% |
Pavel Karnaukhov
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0% |
Rinat Valiev
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0% |
Ryan Lomberg
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1 |
0.38% |
Spencer Foo
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1 |
0.38% |
Tyler Parsons
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67 |
25.48% |
07-12-2019, 02:16 PM
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#41
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
Gillies won't be playing NHL games unless Talbot or Rittich go down with a significant injury I would presume.
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I think it's a pretty reasonable bet that Gillies sees some NHL time again this year. The only way he doesn't is if Talbot and Rittich both dress 82 games (very unlikely), or Parsons is shooting the lights out and gets the opportunity ahead of Gillies.
Either way, Gillies or Parsons (maybe/probably both) pull the jersey on at some point this year.
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07-12-2019, 02:30 PM
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#42
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think it's a pretty reasonable bet that Gillies sees some NHL time again this year. The only way he doesn't is if Talbot and Rittich both dress 82 games (very unlikely), or Parsons is shooting the lights out and gets the opportunity ahead of Gillies.
Either way, Gillies or Parsons (maybe/probably both) pull the jersey on at some point this year.
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Even then, that's more just circumstance of him being our only "verteran" AHL goalie. Doesn't really speak to his value as a prospect.
Also, he didn't play any games last year despite a few minor injuries to Smith and Rittich.
Dressing to be the backup is one thing, but I doubt he will get any starts unless Rittich or Talbot suffer a long term injury.
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07-12-2019, 02:30 PM
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#43
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think it's a pretty reasonable bet that Gillies sees some NHL time again this year. The only way he doesn't is if Talbot and Rittich both dress 82 games (very unlikely), or Parsons is shooting the lights out and gets the opportunity ahead of Gillies.
Either way, Gillies or Parsons (maybe/probably both) pull the jersey on at some point this year.
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Gillies didn't play any games last year. I think it is actually a pretty reasonable bet that between Rittich and Talbot all the games are covered. I can see Gillies spending a few games on the bench, but starting and playing is another matter altogether.
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07-12-2019, 02:46 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamescuprun2018
Interesting to see the recency bias created by the timing of this ranking and the development camp. .
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Your claims of recency bias are an example of confirmation bias.
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07-12-2019, 02:58 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: F*** me. We're so f***ing good, you check the f***ing standings? Lets f***ing go! F***ing practice!
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Voted Parsons for the third time.
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07-12-2019, 03:46 PM
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#47
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Powerplay Quarterback
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So far I have been balancing upside, results and NHL readiness to try and decide the order for the prospects. So far my list is:
Valimaki
Dube
Pelletier
Kylington
Pettersen
Phillips
Parsons
Zavgorodny
Koumontzis
Nikolaev
Tuulola
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07-12-2019, 04:05 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
IMHO...
most over-rated so far: Pettersen
most under-rated so far: Gillies
Yes, goalies are unpredictable, but that doesn't mean they aren't legit prospects. Gillies has played 12 NHL games already, and will almost certainly play more this year.
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Pettersons earned his praise. I think we can acknowledge the. Through an insane work ethic and a drive to compete like few others. Pair that with the hands he has on display, tough not to bump him up a big huge chunk in the farm system rankings. From all accounts he earned the right to be his NCAA teams big dog.
We will see how his season goes but if he improves yet again, the Flames scouting staff should pat themselves on the back yet again.
I guess the thing that stands out for me the most is the fact he has taken his hockey career into his own hands and seems bent on forging his career the right way.
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07-12-2019, 04:18 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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intrigued by Pospisil, Koumontzis, and Pettersen primarily because I think Jim Cummins has an eye for talent. Went with Pospisil
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07-12-2019, 05:42 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Parsons for me. Kid is as legitimate a goalie prospect as they come. He isn't the best goalie prospect in the world, but I would put him into that second tier, and much better than any goalie that the Flames have drafted since Vernon - and yes, that's saying a lot. Who knows how he will develop, but I am betting that at some point this season there will be a "Tyler Fricken Parsons" thread.
Pettersen next for me, and it will signal the end of that first tier of prospects.
I can't believe some people think that this pool is shallow. There are so many prospects that I would rank as having solid middle-six potential left on the board - maybe even top 6 guys in Zavgorodny, Nikolaev and Sveningsson. Though I have him ranked considerably down the list due to his indifference when it comes to his compete level, Ruzika will be one of the more interesting prospects to watch down in the A. If the Flames can get him to train hard and compete hard all season, he will be in the running for the best prospect next season as his size + IQ + skill level is extremely attractive.
Maybe it is because the Flames haven't picked in the top 10 lately, and thus people just assume that the pool is shallow, but in my opinion it is rather deep. You can make the point on D that it is shallow, but everywhere else - including goaltending - should make you go to bed with dreams of a consistently good Flames' team for years to come.
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07-12-2019, 05:48 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
So far I have been balancing upside, results and NHL readiness to try and decide the order for the prospects.
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This is typically my approach too. Do you weigh any of the 3 more heavily than others?
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07-12-2019, 07:07 PM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
This is typically my approach too. Do you weigh any of the 3 more heavily than others?
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Probably upside
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07-12-2019, 07:20 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoller
Phillips
Pospisil
Pettersen
Parsons isn't even on my radar at the moment you guys are nuts
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I watched him his whole junior career and we are not nuts. Scouts gave him the nickname Quick Jr. They must be nuts too.
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07-12-2019, 09:14 PM
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#54
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think it's a pretty reasonable bet that Gillies sees some NHL time again this year. The only way he doesn't is if Talbot and Rittich both dress 82 games (very unlikely), or Parsons is shooting the lights out and gets the opportunity ahead of Gillies.
Either way, Gillies or Parsons (maybe/probably both) pull the jersey on at some point this year.
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There's a better chance of Gillies being bought out in the second buyout phase than there is of him starting games in the NHL this season.
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07-12-2019, 11:03 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Had to go with the former Royal.
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07-13-2019, 12:08 AM
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#56
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikephoen
There's a better chance of Gillies being bought out in the second buyout phase than there is of him starting games in the NHL this season.
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Well, no. I don't really think that is at all true.
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07-13-2019, 12:16 AM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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All the goalies the Flames have will be at camp. How camps shakes down will tell us if there's a man on the way out.
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07-13-2019, 12:25 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Gillies bought out? Not likely. If they decide there's not enough nets to go around they'll trade or even just loan him before they buy him out
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07-13-2019, 12:35 AM
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#59
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Parsons for sure
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07-13-2019, 09:49 AM
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#60
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Your claims of recency bias are an example of confirmation bias.
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Yep
I haven't voted for him yet, but it's not a recency thing. He was making waves all season in US college hockey for his production at his age.
You never know where these guys go from here, but being excited about MEP's progress since draft day only makes sense.
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