04-04-2017, 10:54 AM
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#161
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
If the Flames indeed were guilty of not giving young dmen enough opportunity, would the best evidence of this not be seeing those D moving on to become productive NHLers elsewhere? Absent that I'm not sure it is something backed by much evidence.
I agree with those that maintain guys have been given opportunity and just haven't grabbed - likely because they simply aren't good enough. And part of that simply is they haven't drafted many dmen high.
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It bears mentioning that the Flames have not drafted a defenseman in the first round of the entry draft since 2009 (that is one defenseman in eight selections), and only three since 2000. We shouldn't be altogether surprised that there have only been a handful to graduate.
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04-04-2017, 11:30 AM
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#162
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Franchise Player
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I was hoping the flames would trade up to grab Chycrun this past year
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04-15-2017, 11:19 AM
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#163
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Bu twitter account
Our 2017-18 captain will be...
Brandon Hickey. #ProudToBU
http://twitter.com/TerrierHockey/sta...96555243253761
Looks like he will stay in college
Last edited by sureLoss; 04-15-2017 at 11:25 AM.
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04-15-2017, 11:21 AM
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#164
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First Line Centre
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That's not good. He can chase free agency after next season
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04-15-2017, 11:22 AM
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#165
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Bu twitter account
Our 2017-18 captain will be...
Brandon Hickey. #ProudToBU
Looks like he will stay in college
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Meltdown in 3 2 1....
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04-15-2017, 11:24 AM
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#166
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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Meh. Johnny and Janko did the same. Let him develop more and sign him when his year is over
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04-15-2017, 11:33 AM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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He made the right choice for himself, but damn. I doubt he picks the Flames when he just has to wait a few more months to be the most sought-after college UFA since Schultz, Hayes or Vesey.
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04-15-2017, 11:39 AM
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#168
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Granteed, you're totally right. I can't see why a guy born in Leduc would want to come play for the Calgary Flames a couple of hours away from his hometown.
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04-15-2017, 11:40 AM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Unless there appears to be openings for him in the immediate future he's probably going to pick his spot as he has a right to do which could still be Calgary. Unfortunately this is the risk with drafting college players. Really this seems to be a pretty good route for good young players as you can get your post secondary education and bypass the draft.
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04-15-2017, 11:43 AM
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#170
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Franchise Player
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Son of a thousand whores...
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04-15-2017, 11:44 AM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
Granteed, you're totally right. I can't see why a guy born in Leduc would want to come play for the Calgary Flames a couple of hours away from his hometown.
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Be a Stockton Heat until the end of your ELC or be an immediate top 6 on the Edmonton Oilers?
Pretty easy choice for a Leduc kid.
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04-15-2017, 11:46 AM
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#172
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by jlh2640
Meh. Johnny and Janko did the same. Let him develop more and sign him when his year is over
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Not exactly. It is true that Jankowski opted to return to Providence for his senior year, but Gaudreau signed with the Flames at the first opportunity after three years at BC.
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04-15-2017, 11:46 AM
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#173
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlh2640
Meh. Johnny and Janko did the same. Let him develop more and sign him when his year is over
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Johnny did not go back for his final year. Only did 3 years.
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04-15-2017, 11:46 AM
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#174
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Be a Stockton Heat until the end of your ELC or be an immediate top 6 on the Edmonton Oilers?
Pretty easy choice for a Leduc kid.
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The paranoia is strong with this one.
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04-15-2017, 11:49 AM
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#175
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Franchise Player
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Not ideal...
But like others have mentioned, he's an Alberta kid.... Plus the ELC, where Calgary reallly can't get outbid by other teams purely on total monies offered suggests that we have a good shot to sign him anyways
At least as good as anyone else if not slightly better
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04-15-2017, 11:51 AM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
The paranoia is strong with this one.
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Not really. It's not uncommon that when a player takes Hickey's route he signs with a different team than the one that drafted him. We will have to see what the Flames depth on defense looks in a year but you can't fault him for looking for the best opportunity to play in the NHL and don't kid yourself that agents have a lot to say about where they sign as well. If the agent thinks there are teams that will give him a better shot he will be in the player's ear.
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04-15-2017, 11:53 AM
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#177
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Franchise Player
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I'd be less worried if the Flames weren't awful at giving young defencemen a legit shot at the NHL. Why would he sign with a team that will probably keep him in the AHL until he's waiver eligible and then trade him for future considerations?
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Before you call me a pessimist or a downer, the Flames made me this way. Blame them.
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04-15-2017, 11:53 AM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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The Flames will still be in a position to sign him next spring and let him burn a year. Still, not the greatest sign that he will be a Flame in 2018.
I imagine Treliving will comment soon.
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04-15-2017, 12:00 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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He's overrated anyways.
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04-15-2017, 12:01 PM
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#180
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He made the right choice for himself, but damn. I doubt he picks the Flames when he just has to wait a few more months to be the most sought-after college UFA since Schultz, Hayes or Vesey.
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Agreed. If the Flames sign Stone in the offseason, chances are Hickey will not be a Flame next summer. Here's the minimum depth chart Hickey has to compare to when choosing other paths:
Giodano - Hamilton
Brodie - Stone
Kylington - Andersson
Fox
And chances are the Flames will congested the line-up with Bartowski, Engelland or whomever else.
So if Hickey only has to wait a few months to earn himself an NHL spot or top AHL minutes, I can't see him passing up on that
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