Rule change re. trading owed picks - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Jiri Hrdina · 03-05-2022, 09:26 AM

Moving forward and effective immediately teams will not be allowed to trade 1st or 2nd round picks that teams do not own already.

In addition, for teams that are already in a deficit position for first or 2nd round picks, they will not be permitted to trade any picks they currently own that could be used to meet those conditions. There are no limitations on picks in rounds 3-5.

Questions?

agulati · 03-05-2022, 09:51 AM

I was hoping that it would be 1st rounds only.

We can put conditions, if we own picks that can be traded though, correct? For instance 2nd round of team’s choice, if the team trading the pick already has a 2nd rounder or two?

Jiri Hrdina · 03-05-2022, 11:07 AM

Yes but the league reserves the right to reject if it’s too hard to track

TheScorpion · 03-05-2022, 12:04 PM

Interesting.

agulati · 03-05-2022, 12:54 PM

I thought we were going to throw it up to vote to see the specifics?

Jiri Hrdina · 03-05-2022, 12:58 PM

No we decided this should be a commissioner level decisions as it’s more about the long term health of franchises and teams

TurdFerguson · 03-05-2022, 03:41 PM

wow. Talk about going from one extreme to the other. This seems overly restrictive and I am disappointed to see such a high impact change made for a scenario that has never been an issue and seems in direct response to 1 teams situation this season. Feels like there was more support for alternative rules but I don't think that was ever really on the table.

So it goes...

Who wants my conditional 5th?

MJK · 03-05-2022, 03:48 PM

A league wide commish made rule change for something that has not once been a real issue. I get why the league is concerned moving forward but this seems a little extreme.

Cheese · 03-05-2022, 03:55 PM

Although I never or very very rarely deal in futures, this seemed to have been popular with a lot of GMs, and that is ok. I don't recall this causing major issues in the past. Certainly, there is need to monitor, and perhaps if a GM is creating an issue the discussion should be direct with that person rather than inflicting controlling measures on the league.
Just my two cents.

Cambam8 · 03-05-2022, 04:18 PM

Scorp where u at?

Jiri Hrdina · 03-05-2022, 07:25 PM

The issue isn't GMs making their conditions, the issue is the teams they leave behind when they move on. We've cycled through good potential new GMs where the former GM left a deficit and one could consider a negative asset base.

That's the issue. And GMs will change. Life changes and as much as GMs may assure us they aren't going anywhere, they do change and leave behind the wake of deficit spending.

Jiri Hrdina · 03-27-2022, 03:34 PM

Jon, can you add this one to the rules page on the site too?

Cambam8 · 06-26-2022, 09:00 AM

Question...i know i read it somewhere but cant seem to find it now. Regarding conditions on my team page, where do i send a message to have those removed now that they are all met. Thanks.

Jiri Hrdina · 06-26-2022, 09:19 AM

Send to cphltrade

Jiri Hrdina · 09-04-2023, 10:40 AM

Jon can we add this one to the rules page please? Then i will unsticky this thread.

Jiri Hrdina · 09-04-2023, 12:35 PM

Per the rules 1st AND 2nds can no longer be dealt.
Partly my fault for not catching it, but please do not submit any more deals involving owed 2nds.

JonDuke · 09-04-2023, 04:26 PM

Website update with OP

BagoPucks · 09-04-2023, 04:50 PM

I want to understand the rules for the trading of 1sts and 2nds.. The way I was reading, it was for teams defecit of those picks. So if you have them, you are allowed to no?

Jiri Hrdina · 09-04-2023, 04:51 PM

Yes you can trade picks you actually have
You can’t trade firsts and seconds you don’t have as a conditional owed pick

BagoPucks · 09-04-2023, 04:53 PM

So I am allowed to have 1st and 2nd round picks and then trade them conditionally if I chose to.