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Old 05-21-2022, 09:35 AM   #41
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A crazy thing about these sportsbooks that are advertising: they are only legal in Ontario (and recently became so). So they are running national ads where the product is only technically legal in one province.

Like with other vices -- alcohol, drugs, cigarettes -- talk to your kids about the dangers of gambling and addiction. Talk to your friends if you suspect they may be developing a problem. That's one way to deal with the situation instead of depending on the government to act. Just like with alcohol, there are healthy ways to consume gambling as a form of entertainment.

Aside: I find the 50/50 tickets to be way more insidious. They promote extravagant jackpots which appeal to people's greed. They take a 50% (!) cut, and hide behind a curtain of 'charity', but who knows what 'charity' is actually benefitting the other way.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:10 AM   #42
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I don’t gamble on sports often but I don’t mind the ads. It’s a good thing this is now legal and taxable rather than in grey area with revenues going offshore as it was previously.
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What I find funny in all this is how corporations of every sort these days pander to how enlightened they are and how they're leading the way - whether diversity, inclusion, etc.,etc., but these same corporations wouldn't do a damn thing if it wasn't a marketing opportunity for them which ultimately equates to more money for them.

Why am I bringing this up now?

Because when this becomes a problem Rogers will ultimately donate some money to gambling addition help of some sort and act like they did a great service to humanity. All corporations do this nonsense and people are blind to the gimmick. I find it also somewhat interesting that other advertisers who have the odd spot, aren't putting more pressure to pull their own ads as they may not want to be associated with gambling themselves.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:23 AM   #44
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Not sure what I know more about after last nights game, that it is McDavid's 8th multi point game this playoffs or that I can bet on who will score the next goal via some sleezy freemium app..

South Park always explains it best, addiction machine explanation:

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Old 05-21-2022, 10:27 AM   #45
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It's funny that you brought this up as I was going to do this myself soon. This non stop bombardment of this gambling stuff is unethical and will be extremely damaging from a society if this continues.

I am speaking as someone who used to gamble reasonably heavily on NHL and NFL, at a young age, via a bookie. The purpose of gambling is to find the odd line that is off or doesn't make sense in your opinion, hoping to place a bet and make some money. Somewhat like picking an undervalued stock or two.

All this non stop electronic gambling, laying parlays while taking a s***, Draft Kings garbage, every 2 seconds and every 4th play an updated line on a meaningless game is just not healthy. Smartphones are addictive enough for a lot of people but for people to be laser focused on this mickey mouse stuff and clicking away their life is not healthy.

I get it, there is money to be made for the people in charge, makes sense. Why is the government allowing this to the same degree? It isn't just degenerate gamblers who are watching TSN, Sportsnet and sports. It's families, it's young children, it's people who are already addicted to their phones etc.

We are allowing this to poison our society and are in essence normalizing this level of behavior WAY beyond what was ever considered normal or acceptable not that long ago. Literally non stop. Most seasoned sports gamblers used to only hear from their bookie's on settlement day other than when they laid a bet.

This isn't healthy and I am speaking as someone who has a decent amount of experience in this regard.
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Old 05-21-2022, 10:56 AM   #46
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I'm honestly flabbergasted how much money there is in sportsbook betting.

I can't handle it, it's a lot, and it's constant bombardment.

As an anecdote, I play men's rec hockey, and on one of my teams I'd say 95% of the guys are obsessed and they bet on every event, every game, more or less most sports. It's all they talk about in the dressing room, who bet on what, what parlays, etc.

I don't bet on sports, and I have no interest in it. I don't really gamble at all (except the odd lotto ticket), so for me it was fascinating that every single game this season the entirety of the locker room talk was always about sports betting.
I have enough stress and anxiety watching the Flames game without any of my money on the line, as it is. No need to add to it
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I don’t gamble on sports often but I don’t mind the ads. It’s a good thing this is now legal and taxable rather than in grey area with revenues going offshore as it was previously.

Agree. But it's a balancing act. Gambling revenue is good for the state, but it can also be a destructive force in society that leads to addiction, financial distress, depression, etc. To me, there should be a heavy heavy focus on responsible gambling -- if you can minimize the harms, then it can be close to a win-win.
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Old 05-21-2022, 11:14 AM   #48
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A crazy thing about these sportsbooks that are advertising: they are only legal in Ontario (and recently became so). So they are running national ads where the product is only technically legal in one province.

Like with other vices -- alcohol, drugs, cigarettes -- talk to your kids about the dangers of gambling and addiction. Talk to your friends if you suspect they may be developing a problem. That's one way to deal with the situation instead of depending on the government to act. Just like with alcohol, there are healthy ways to consume gambling as a form of entertainment.

Aside: I find the 50/50 tickets to be way more insidious. They promote extravagant jackpots which appeal to people's greed. They take a 50% (!) cut, and hide behind a curtain of 'charity', but who knows what 'charity' is actually benefitting the other way.
Well single betting itself is legal country wide. Ontario has just been the first province to allow private operators to enter the space. Other provinces could dish out licenses to Draftkings, Fanduel, etc today....they're just slow. Most provinces have an archaic provincial lottery right now. Soon you'll see arenas in this country with betting kiosks. Great Canadian Gaming is making a big push right now in hotels/racetracks (River Rock, Woodbine) to have retail sportsbooks set up by NFL.
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Old 05-21-2022, 11:16 AM   #49
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We were saying the same thing last night. Every second commercial was for a different betting site.

It was a bit much.
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Old 05-21-2022, 11:19 AM   #50
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this is what you get in a capitalistic society...
This what you get in a ‘Conservative’ led society. The Ont. gov could have included restrictions on advertising, but chose to let money lead the way.

CRTC really should get inundated with complaints. Glorifying gambling to this extent is really bad.
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I don't want to restrict gambling or gambling ads. But I might start refusing to watch it. I also might "forget" to turn the game on fire my kids. It's already insane that they think it's a good idea for their younger viewers to start games at 9 pm.
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Old 05-21-2022, 12:41 PM   #52
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Yeah this is getting ridiculous and will become a larger societal issue if it continues. I have friends that are betting everyday on everything. It’s fun, for now…


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Old 05-21-2022, 02:19 PM   #53
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I wish / hope there are people out there are willing to flood CRTC with complaint about sport betting commercial on prime time TV. And I don't know if it'll do anything to curb the amount of sport betting commercial. Or may be enough people can create a campaign against gambling commercial like the MADD.



Now when I watch a hockey game, I'll have my remote nearby. Every time a gambling commercial comes on, I hit the mute and turn to twitter on my phone. I don't want to see or hear from them.
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Never thought that I would get sick of Jesse Pinkman, and yet here we are.
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Yup. Cigarettes aren’t a “get rich quick” scheme on top of being potentially life ruining.
Plus the betting ads are on a show about the bet, which makes it more enticing.
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I draw the line at Friedman and the other dudes giving odds updates.

That’s just garbage. The revenue from the ads for the betting sites isn’t enough?
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I really hope they tone it down for Sunday's game. It's a start time basically made for family viewing, which is great. My kids will be watching, and its the first game this series they can watch start to finish.

I sure hope they're not inundated with betting ads.
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I draw the line at Friedman and the other dudes giving odds updates.

That’s just garbage. The revenue from the ads for the betting sites isn’t enough?
I remember when Friedman broke in and his dorkiness was sort of endearing. Now he's an insufferable twat.
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Never thought that I would get sick of Jesse Pinkman, and yet here we are.
Jesse Pinkman was great, Aaron Paul is not.
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When the owners locked the fans and players out to enforce a “partnership” they took on the ethical obligation to maximize all revenue streams on behalf of the partners.

This is just an extension of that.

I don’t care, I don’t gamble and would rather the govt get the profits instead of organized crime. Just remember though, most of you wanted this.
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