02-28-2024, 05:41 PM
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#2121
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Originally Posted by Engine09
Just had a brief conversation with a coworker about this story, he got worked up immediately and stated emphatically that it's 100% on the owners. It's not the dog, it's the owners. Zero acknowledgement that these specific dogs are dangerous as hell and maybe they should control, limit or flat out stop breeding them.
That's why it's hard to get stuff done, people are unreasonable.
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That's fine. Stop breeding pit bull owners then. Problem solved.
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02-28-2024, 06:45 PM
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#2122
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
That's fine. Stop breeding pit bull owners then. Problem solved.
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Affliction, Ed Hardy, True Religion, Neck Tattooists, Ram Trucks, Oakleys white product division, Juicy sweatpant factory, The Vape industry and The Olive Garden would all go out of business.... the economic fallout would be catastrophic.
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02-28-2024, 07:42 PM
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#2123
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Originally Posted by pylon
Affliction, Ed Hardy, True Religion, Neck Tattooists, Ram Trucks, Oakleys white product division, Juicy sweatpant factory, The Vape industry and The Olive Garden would all go out of business.... the economic fallout would be catastrophic.
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I'm prepared to make those sacrifices.
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02-28-2024, 10:56 PM
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#2124
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by pylon
Affliction, Ed Hardy, True Religion, Neck Tattooists, Ram Trucks, Oakleys white product division, Juicy sweatpant factory, The Vape industry and The Olive Garden would all go out of business.... the economic fallout would be catastrophic.
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02-29-2024, 08:53 AM
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#2126
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Powerplay Quarterback
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That's even worse than if they killed a orphaned amputee with a cleft palate's Schnauzer.
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02-29-2024, 09:02 AM
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#2127
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Could someone explain why we haven't banned these yet? Seems like a no-brainer. Absolutely zero negative consequences, and only positives. So what's the holdup? Is there some sort of Pit Bull owners lobby group with tremendous power? baffling.
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02-29-2024, 09:12 AM
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#2128
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These attacks were literal blocks from my house. My kids walk our dog. Scary to think about.
I'm on the ban pitbulls train for sure.
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02-29-2024, 09:44 AM
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#2129
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I hope these effers get their asses sued!
when liveleak was a thing they had a ton of pitbull attack videos. they WILL NOT let go!
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02-29-2024, 11:47 AM
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Could someone explain why we haven't banned these yet? Seems like a no-brainer. Absolutely zero negative consequences, and only positives. So what's the holdup? Is there some sort of Pit Bull owners lobby group with tremendous power? baffling.
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Yes. Large lobby groups.
They've managed to infiltrate major professional bodies:
https://www.avma.org/resources/pet-o...ion-not-answer
It's absolutely baffling that a group made up of educated people could come to these conclusions:
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The issue of dangerous dogs, dog bites and public safety is a complex one. Any dog can bite, regardless of its breed. It is the dog's individual history, behavior, general size, number of dogs involved, and the vulnerability of the person bitten that determines the likelihood of biting and whether a dog will cause a serious bite injury. Breed-specific bans are a simplistic answer to a far more complex social problem, and they have the potential to divert attention and resources from more effective approaches.
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Yes....any dog can bite. Hence, why we should breed for pet dogs with lower bite force.
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Breed-specific legislation is discriminatory against responsible owners and their dogs.
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No it's not discrimination. The type of dog you have is not an inherent characteristic of who you are as a person. We aren't talking about race, religion, sexual identity....we are talking about not letting people own something that is an inherent danger to the public. No different than bans on certain weapons. We aren't talking about stopping responsible dog owners from owning dogs, just inherently dangerous dogs.
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02-29-2024, 11:51 AM
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#2131
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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Originally Posted by pylon
Affliction, Ed Hardy, True Religion, Neck Tattooists, Ram Trucks, Oakleys white product division, Juicy sweatpant factory, The Vape industry and The Olive Garden would all go out of business.... the economic fallout would be catastrophic.
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Add UFC fans to this
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02-29-2024, 11:51 AM
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#2132
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K...well I'm all out of ideas then. I guess we will just have to ban all dogs from the city so we don't discriminate. It's what the AVMA recommends, since any dog can bite.
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02-29-2024, 12:03 PM
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#2133
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by pylon
Affliction, Ed Hardy, True Religion, Neck Tattooists, Ram Trucks, Oakleys white product division, Juicy sweatpant factory, The Vape industry and The Olive Garden would all go out of business.... the economic fallout would be catastrophic.
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It's funny because it's true. When I lived on Commercial Drive in Vancouver, it was always the same kind of owner. Guys in their 30s and 40s dressed like they played in mid 2000s rock band and fought MMA part-time. Actually never did either of those things. The modern day equivalent of some cross between the urban cowboy and the 80s mullet guys.
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02-29-2024, 12:30 PM
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#2134
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Those two ####bulls killed a war refugee
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Ugh, that's awful. Escaping war only to meet such a fate.
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Those two ####bulls killed a war refugee grandma
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Oh man, this just gets worse! That poor old little woman!
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Those two ####bulls killed a war refugee grandma's Pomeranian.
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Oh. That's a shame...but I mean, they are kind of yappy.
What a ride that sentence was.
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02-29-2024, 12:31 PM
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#2135
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Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG
These attacks were literal blocks from my house. My kids walk our dog. Scary to think about.
I'm on the ban pitbulls train for sure.
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03-01-2024, 08:33 AM
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#2136
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Heard of another incident a few days ago involving 2 pitbulls attacking another dog and owner. Didn't hit the news but scary stuff as these are happening all over the place it seems.
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03-01-2024, 09:20 AM
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#2137
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Its really weird, because the 'bred-in aggression' case can be made for a bunch of other breeds as well. Dobermans, German Shepherds, etc.
Again...I am not a dog expert. My dog is 25 pounds of fluff and love who loves to knock down children...which I happen to find hilarious. Because he just wants to be friendly and doesnt understand 'inertia.'
Anyhow...my neighbour growing up was a K9 Cop, and he'd bring his dog home with him. It was a German Shepherd and my neighbour had to learn to speak Czech because thats where the dog was trained and that was the language in which it understood commands.
He had a 7-foot fence around his backyard. It was like a Prison Compound. I was working at Greyhound at the time and coming home at like 2-3am and several times I found the dog in the middle of the street.
Not doing anything. Just sitting there. Like..."Yeah. I'm a Police Dog. I can jump this fence. What are you going to do about it?"
So I park, go ring his doorbell...I DO NOT approach the dog. Because Cop dogs are terrifying and I cannot command the dog.
He comes out...gets the dog, scene over.
But the thing is. That dog was 100% free. Away from its Master. And it did nothing. Didn't attack me. Nothing. Just sat there waiting for a command. I'm sure it could be insanely aggressive without its master around....but its not. Just chilling. Time to go inside? Okay.
So thats again shaped my opinion. I've seen well-trained dogs and German Shepherds are not inherently aggressive, whereas I've found Pitbulls, once loose? All bets are off.
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03-01-2024, 09:36 AM
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When I used to take my lab to the dog walk, the first thing I did was scout the area for pitbulls, and if I saw one I would purposely avoid the area he was in.
I had an incident where a pitbull jumped on my 90 lb unneutered lab, and fortunately my dog didn't react, just kept motionless until it realized there wasn't any point in starting a fight. As the owner walked past me he said that his dog has issues with unneutered dogs. Judging by his haughty pumped up mannerism, I figured there was no point in saying anything to him.
Some people carry a "break stick" which can be inserted between the back molars of a pitbull's teeth and rotated to pry open the mouth of a pitbull that has clamped down on another dog.
I think, at a minimum, all pitbulls should be muzzled when in public.
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03-01-2024, 09:41 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
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I had no idea until today, but someone I know here in Calgary had their dog killed by a pitbull right in front of them a few years ago. 3 people tried to remove the pitbull, even hitting it on the head with rocks, only after choking the pitbull almost to unconsciousness did it loosen grip.
The dog that was attacked died at the vet.
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03-01-2024, 09:46 AM
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#2140
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Engine09
I had no idea until today, but someone I know here in Calgary had their dog killed by a pitbull right in front of them a few years ago. 3 people tried to remove the pitbull, even hitting it on the head with rocks, only after choking the pitbull almost to unconsciousness did it loosen grip.
The dog that was attacked died at the vet.
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Yeah, like I said a few pages back, even as no expert I know that once those jaws lock...its game over.
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