03-08-2020, 09:05 PM
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I mean, the team does better when the opposing coach picks the matchups.
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03-08-2020, 09:09 PM
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#42
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
Look, I don't think he's the worst coach ever and I think he's a downright good assistant.
But the guy just doesn't call timeouts. I don't get it. If I'm the Flames' coach, I'm freaking out on the bench with anxiety and I have no idea what I'm doing, but I would've called timeouts on like ten separate occasions this year.
Has Ward even called one? A single one?
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Show me evidence that time outs impact the game one way or another.
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03-08-2020, 09:10 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I am not a Ward fan but in no way is he worse than Gilbert. Gilbert was the worst coach ever AINEC.
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03-08-2020, 09:12 PM
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#44
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All flames coaches with the initials GG are infinitely worse than ward.
That said he sure isn’t separating himself from the mediocre to awful
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03-08-2020, 09:13 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I am not a Ward fan but in no way is he worse than Gilbert. Gilbert was the worst coach ever AINEC.
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I was just about going to type exactly that!
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03-08-2020, 09:23 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by colbym72
Sure and then whoever the coach is next year will be the worst hire ever and next one the same. The common denominator is a top line (can it be called that lately?) that can disappear for long stretches.
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I happen to think the common dominator has been Brad Treliving's reluctance to go for 'best coach available' when hiring. He's done a lot of great things as a rookie GM, but his coaching hires have been very Jay Feaster-ish (we know something everyone else doesn't).
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03-08-2020, 09:27 PM
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#48
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Dave tippet would’ve been a great hire instead of peters. Just look at how he had the oilers playing...
Also probably not racist
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03-08-2020, 09:37 PM
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Backup Goalie
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
I mean, the team does better when the opposing coach picks the matchups.
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Lol. Thats funny, never thought of that before. Maybe thats why we are so bad at home.
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03-08-2020, 10:07 PM
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder
All flames coaches with the initials GG are infinitely worse than ward.
That said he sure isn’t separating himself from the mediocre to awful
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Greg Gilbert was definitely the worst. Management chose him over Marc Savard when they had a feud.
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03-08-2020, 10:16 PM
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#51
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
I mean, the team does better when the opposing coach picks the matchups.
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Sutter and the 04 Flames did better on the road in the playoffs...its really not all that rare
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03-08-2020, 10:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Originally Posted by Dion
Greg Gilbert was definitely the worst. Management chose him over Marc Savard when they had a feud.
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Both sucked but I'll take Gilbert over Goofus.
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03-08-2020, 11:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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I can't be bothered building the flow chart but it's pretty simple.
Are Geoff Ward's initials GG? If No then not the worst head coach ever.
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03-08-2020, 11:18 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Psytic
Have to disagree on this point.
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How do we know though? We as fans don’t know other team’s strategies and their strengths and weaknesses. I feel like this team knows what to expect out of their opponents. They know if they’ll be in for a track meet or if they should expect a defensive grind of a game. They certainly play a style against the Oilers that is more conducive to success than in the past.
This team’s biggest problem has been their desire i think. These players just don’t have that burning desire to compete against the bad teams. They’ve been able to get up for the good teams. But they think they can just skill their way to victory against the bad teams.
They bought into their own hype as the second best team last season and I’m not sure any coach can force their team to care. Ken Hitchcock certainly didn’t help the Oilers last season and he’s a hall of famer. I think Treliving’s goal should be to find skilled guys with that 4th line mentality like Crosby has or guys who step on the peddle even when up. That killer instinct and that never satisfied attitude. That would help this team stay more consistent on a day to day, game by game basis.
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03-08-2020, 11:19 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion
Greg Gilbert was definitely the worst. Management chose him over Marc Savard when they had a feud.
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And then fired him after traded Savard for peanut 
That GM deserved to be shot!
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03-08-2020, 11:42 PM
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#56
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Comparing the winning percentage of coaches is meaningless when it is obvious that quality of the team has been vastly different over the decades. Maybe comparing Peters with ward and Hartley could be meaningful, but still probably not.
That being said these knee jerk threads are a bit tiring after every flames loss.
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03-08-2020, 11:45 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kelowna, B.C.
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Squeak into the playoffs and hire Darryl Sutter on a week to week contract..
$125K for weeks 1 and 2
$250K for weeks 3 and 4
$500K for weeks 5 and 6
$1M/ week after that.
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03-09-2020, 05:09 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Originally Posted by troutman
Show me evidence that time outs impact the game one way or another.
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I would suggest you hop on the google and take a look for goals scored after a time out. Theres thousands of examples of it working.
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Originally Posted by oilboimcdavid
Eakins wasn't a bad coach, the team just had 2 bad years, they should've been more patient.
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03-09-2020, 05:33 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14
I would suggest you hop on the google and take a look for goals scored after a time out. Theres thousands of examples of it working.
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Thousands?
I wonder if there has ever been any goals scored without a timeout? Probably a few there too.
Not defending Ward, just saying let's not be ridiculous.
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