03-08-2020, 02:44 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Sure, but people with options don't have to put up with that.
The best executive you can have is someone willing to put their job on the line to tell you that you're wrong.
Jim Little wasn't hired because everything with the Senators is great and nothing needs to change.
Jim Little was hired because the freakin' NHL had to intervene on the senators behalf to try to find them a competent executive after their increasingly volatile and unhinged owner continues to struggle to keep the team from being picked over by creditors.
Understand here that Melnyk is such a disaster as an owner that the league is intervening with the franchise to insulate the other owners from significant problems.
I don't know Jim Little, but i can tell you based on the external optics of the situation he would've been justified in telling Melnyk a lot more than what he reportedly said. Just read melnyk's wikipedia entry and decide for yourself if maybe this guy needs to be told to '#### off' every once in awhile.
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You're missing my point. I know Melnyk runs a s***show, everyone does. This situation is just another example of it. I just don't think someone should be surprised they get fired for telling the owner of the company to shove it.
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03-08-2020, 02:56 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach
You're missing my point. I know Melnyk runs a s***show, everyone does. This situation is just another example of it. I just don't think someone should be surprised they get fired for telling the owner of the company to shove it.
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Ah, ok.
IMO when something like that happens it's because the person saying/doing it knows it might get them fired and they are prepared for that end result.
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03-08-2020, 03:55 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Coach
I don't remember getting that feeling from the initial release, I'll have to re-read it.
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Gary Bettman even came out after Ottawa's news release and said "It's not what you think." because the release sounded very ominous. I imagine the NHL would love nothing more than for Melnyk to sell the team.
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03-08-2020, 04:41 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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I know our owner(s) have had their moments, but we are lucky to not have to deal with someone like Melnyk. How can you be a fan anymore of a team with a dysfunctional owner like that?
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03-08-2020, 06:29 PM
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#45
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
I know our owner(s) have had their moments, but we are lucky to not have to deal with someone like Melnyk. How can you be a fan anymore of a team with a dysfunctional owner like that?
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Remember the Edmonton Owner's Group? Now that was a consistent calamity of cringe.
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03-09-2020, 07:27 AM
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#46
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Franchise Player
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Eugene Melnyk vs. James Dolan... leaving aside the obvious disparity in the importance of the franchises they own, who is worse?
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03-09-2020, 07:35 AM
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#47
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Eugene Melnyk vs. James Dolan... leaving aside the obvious disparity in the importance of the franchises they own, who is worse?
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I would have to say Dolan if only because he should have all the resources possible to build a winner in NY but Melnyk is more of a PR disaster as seemingly makes any situation worse by opening his mouth.
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03-09-2020, 01:46 PM
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#48
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Looks like Melnyk is purging anything related to Little.
Brent Wallace @tsn_wally
Sources tell TSN that #Sens VP of Communications and Community Relations, PJ Loyello, is on leave. The Senators have yet to confirm anything since TSN initially inquired on Friday. (1/2)
Brent Wallace @tsn_wally
While it is unclear if it is personal or work related, TSN has been told the organization took Loyello’s laptop and mobile phone last Wednesday, the same day that Jim Little was fired. Loyello was hired by Little on Jan.27 #Sens (2/2)
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03-09-2020, 01:53 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Can the NHL force Melnyk to sell the team? I can't imagine what it's like being a Senators fan having this guy as an owner. Has to be even worse than when Feterik owned the Stamps.
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03-09-2020, 05:29 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Can the NHL force Melnyk to sell the team? I can't imagine what it's like being a Senators fan having this guy as an owner. Has to be even worse than when Feterik owned the Stamps.
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If he's not breaking some ethical/code of conduct clause, then I don't think they can force him to sell or remove him. The best they could do is try tactics to heavily encourage him to sell the team.
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03-09-2020, 05:54 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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NHL can do some 'digging' of their own, and cite dangerous driving conditions around CT Center year-round, blog-post allegations against multiple employees of the building, strong on-going Coronavirus concerns in the arena, or ice-temperatures inconsistent with NHL guidelines for all arenas along 45-46" N
For security concerns, no NHL games will be played in Kanata for the foreseeable future.
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03-09-2020, 06:07 PM
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#52
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Can the NHL force Melnyk to sell the team? I can't imagine what it's like being a Senators fan having this guy as an owner. Has to be even worse than when Feterik owned the Stamps.
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The NHL has put up with the Harold Ballards and Bill Wirtzes throughout their history.
Misguided, egotistical owners are not a bug, they're a feature.
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03-09-2020, 06:29 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joborule
If he's not breaking some ethical/code of conduct clause, then I don't think they can force him to sell or remove him. The best they could do is try tactics to heavily encourage him to sell the team.
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They made that NBA guy sell his stake a couple years ago (huge caveat: over racist stuff and I don’t know what their licence agreement says).
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03-09-2020, 06:46 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
They made that NBA guy sell his stake a couple years ago (huge caveat: over racist stuff and I don’t know what their licence agreement says).
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Hence, code of conduct/ethics. Donald Sterling was banned from the NBA for life since his racist remarks were damaging to the brand of the league. Even then, he attempt to file a (unsuccessful) lawsuit against the league in the selling of the team.
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03-09-2020, 07:02 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Apparently I'm not the only person wondering how the NHL can get rid of this guy. They were actually talking about this on 960 this afternoon. If he starts defaulting on payments the NHL would then be able to step in.
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03-12-2020, 02:55 AM
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#56
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Apparently I'm not the only person wondering how the NHL can get rid of this guy. They were actually talking about this on 960 this afternoon. If he starts defaulting on payments the NHL would then be able to step in.
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I suppose he may owe the league money out of the bankruptcy.
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