01-12-2021, 12:24 AM
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#1601
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wins 10 internets
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: slightly to the left
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Originally Posted by pylon
He was enabled, coddled, and worshipped by these repulsive GOP members, and it cost them a country. What is left, is not the United States. It is some perverted, disgusting, alternate reality of it.
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Sadly this is where I think you're wrong. This is always what the United States has been, it was just way more hush hush until Trump came along. It is a country built on the backs of slaves, fought a war with itself over those slaves, and then never did anything to take former slaveowners out of power after the dust settled. Through Jim Crow, segregation, the War on Drugs, and inner city school funding, it's been American government policy to make sure the blacks "know their place", at the bottom of the societal totem pole. All Trump did was throw open the drapes and allowed America's true heritage to see the ugly light of day. The only hope I have is that this is finally the last gasp of the Confederacy, and the US can finally move beyond their ugly history. If that happens then Trump might ironically actually Make America Great
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01-12-2021, 06:44 AM
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#1602
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Some interesting perspective from our allies. This article suggests they believe Trump attempted a coup.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...-police-2021-1
"Thank God it didn't work, because I can't imagine how hard it would be to sanction the US financial system," the official said. By sanctions, he means the imposition of the diplomatic, military, and trade blockages that democratic nations usually reserve for dictatorships."
"The broader damage around the world will be extensive in terms of reputation, and that's why Putin doesn't mind at all that Trump lost. He's got to be happy to take his chips and count his winnings, which from the Trump era will be a shockingly quick decline in American prestige and moral high ground.
"Every moment the Americans spend on their own self-inflicted chaos helps China, it helps Putin, and, to a lesser extent, it helps the mini-dictators like [Turkish President Recep Tayyip] Erdogan and [Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor] Orban, who breathe cynicism about politics, human rights, and democracy as their air," the official said. "They won't miss Trump; they'll be glad to see his drama leave so they can enjoy the poisoned political climate."
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01-12-2021, 07:20 AM
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#1603
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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01-12-2021, 07:24 AM
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#1604
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Sadly this is where I think you're wrong. This is always what the United States has been, it was just way more hush hush until Trump came along. It is a country built on the backs of slaves, fought a war with itself over those slaves, and then never did anything to take former slaveowners out of power after the dust settled. Through Jim Crow, segregation, the War on Drugs, and inner city school funding, it's been American government policy to make sure the blacks "know their place", at the bottom of the societal totem pole. All Trump did was throw open the drapes and allowed America's true heritage to see the ugly light of day. The only hope I have is that this is finally the last gasp of the Confederacy, and the US can finally move beyond their ugly history. If that happens then Trump might ironically actually Make America Great
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To add to this...The United States has always had fascism baked into it's DNA. Prior to WWII there was a relatively large fascist swell in the country. In fact, Hitler and the Nazi's studied some US policies like Eugenics and generally thought highly of America. I sometimes wonder (and shudder to think) if they didn't fight the Nazi's in WWII, which made fascism public enemy #1, would they be much further down the trail to all-out fascism than they are today.
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01-12-2021, 07:41 AM
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#1606
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Originally Posted by FlameOn
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I wonder just how much financial trouble Trump and co are going to be in? Who would lend him money anymore, other than Russian oligarchs? Surely his hotels and golf courses, already in trouble, will be on the brink of collapse.
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01-12-2021, 07:52 AM
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#1607
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
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So which do you believe?
Should people be provided a diet based on their religion or not?
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01-12-2021, 07:58 AM
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#1608
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by GGG
So which do you believe?
Should people be provided a diet based on their religion or not?
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Obviously they should, but it's pretty blatant that there is only one color of person in the USA that typically is.
It's also worth questioning his dedication to Native Shaman practices while having Norse iconography tattooed on his person. "Eat Organic" is a common refrain in the Alex Jones circles.
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Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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01-12-2021, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameOn
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Now the banks are cancelling Donald? Quick! Someone regulate the banks! They need judicial oversight to stop them from making these arbitrary decisions in the future!
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01-12-2021, 08:55 AM
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#1610
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Apparently Uline owners bankrolled the Capitol riots, hopefully business suffers.
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01-12-2021, 08:57 AM
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#1611
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Not the 1 millionth post winnar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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3 officers suspended
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...d-capitol-riot
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“I don’t have any direct evidence of, as yet, of any kind of inside job,” Ryan said. “We do have a couple of Capitol Police we talked about before with taking selfies, and another ... Capitol Police [officer] evidently put on a MAGA hat. … They have been suspended.”
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01-12-2021, 08:59 AM
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#1612
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.
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01-12-2021, 09:20 AM
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#1613
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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Good to see he's toning down the rhetoric. I knew he's visiting the wall today, but some people (who know much more than I do) were speculating that this was no accident. He has a lot of sympathizers there and the insinuation is that he's not just going there to see the wall, but to stir up some trouble and try to mobilize allies that he has to create more unrest. Hopefully these people are just plain wrong and reading too much into things after the events of last week.
Obviously, I hope that's the case. But the reality is that while it's easy to say "Trump is an idiot" of have that "he's so stupid" attitude, he's just not. He's rather cunning and smart. I don't think that you get to where he has gotten to by sheer luck, and I hope that the authorities are being very careful with this situation.
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01-12-2021, 09:41 AM
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First Line Centre
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https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/...e&guccounter=1
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WASHINGTON ― Capitol Police briefed Democrats on Monday night about three more potentially gruesome demonstrations planned in the coming days, with one plot to encircle the U.S. Capitol and assassinate Democrats and some Republicans.
On a private call Monday night, new leaders of the Capitol Police told House Democrats they were closely monitoring three separate plans that could pose serious threats to members of Congress as Washington prepares for Democrat Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration on Jan. 20.
The first is a demonstration billed as the “largest armed protest ever to take place on American soil.”
Another is a protest in honor of Ashli Babbitt, the woman killed while trying to climb into the Speaker’s Lobby during Wednesday’s pro-Trump siege of the Capitol.
And another demonstration, which three members said was by far the most concerning plot, would involve insurrectionists forming a perimeter around the Capitol, the White House and the Supreme Court, and then blocking Democrats from entering the Capitol ― perhaps even killing them ― so that Republicans could take control of the government.
The members of Congress whom HuffPost spoke to Monday night were extremely concerned by the call.
“It was pretty overwhelming,” one member said.
Officials on the call warned lawmakers about sharing too much information with the media, saying that divulging specific dates, times and countermeasures could aid the organizers of the plots. HuffPost is not disclosing certain information, such as who appears to be organizing these plots and when they are to take place.
One member was explicit that these groups were trying to get journalists to report on their demonstrations.
“Some of their main communications to organize these have been cut off, so they’re purposely trying to get the media to report on this as a way to further disseminate information and to attract additional support for their attacks,” this member said.
Democrats were told that the Capitol Police and the National Guard were preparing for potentially tens of thousands of armed protesters coming to Washington and were establishing rules of engagement for warfare. In general, the military and police don’t plan to shoot anyone until one of the rioters fires, but there could be exceptions.
Lawmakers were told that the plot to encircle the Capitol also included plans to surround the White House ― so that no one could harm Trump ― and the Supreme Court, simply to shut down the courts. The plan to surround the Capitol includes assassinating Democrats as well as Republicans who didn’t support Trump’s effort to overturn the election ― and allowing other Republicans to enter the building and control government.
All of these plots may never materialize. The Capitol Police have established a new perimeter with fencing and razor wire, and the National Guard has already been called in to help protect the Capitol and lawmakers.
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01-12-2021, 09:41 AM
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#1615
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Not Taylor
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Calgary SW
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Even long time friends are bailing on him - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...r-dies-aged-87
I also just noticed that the local Trump supporter in my neighbourhood has taken his MAGA bumper stickers off his truck this week.
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01-12-2021, 09:57 AM
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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Glad Trump got banned from twitter so that others have to live tweet him instead. One step forward, two steps back....
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This individual is not affluent and more of a member of that shrinking middle class. It is likely the individual does not have a high paying job, is limited on benefits, and has to make due with those benefits provided by employer.
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01-12-2021, 10:10 AM
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#1617
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary - Centre West
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Originally Posted by dobbles
Glad Trump got banned from twitter so that others have to live tweet him instead. One step forward, two steps back....
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So basically like normal press coverage and newspapers? They're reporters, that's their job.
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01-12-2021, 10:34 AM
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#1618
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Scorch
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorch
Democrats were told that the Capitol Police and the National Guard were preparing for potentially tens of thousands of armed protesters coming to Washington and were establishing rules of engagement for warfare. In general, the military and police don’t plan to shoot anyone until one of the rioters fires, but there could be exceptions.
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Discussing the engagement of warfare. Wow.
This article was extremely unsettling to read. I hope to god that the National Guard is ready for another possible insurrection attempt.
Last edited by TherapyforGlencross; 01-12-2021 at 11:15 AM.
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01-12-2021, 10:53 AM
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Truculent!
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If the rumors are true, with regards to mass crowds of armed protestors flooding the capitol buildings on the 20th,
We could see the true end of the US as we know it.
The second the army, national guard starts exchanging bullets with civilians, North America will change forever.
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It's the Law of E=NG. If there was an Edmonton on Mars, it would stink like Uranus.
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01-12-2021, 10:56 AM
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#1620
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
If the rumors are true, with regards to mass crowds of armed protestors flooding the capitol buildings on the 20th,
We could see the true end of the US as we know it.
The second the army, national guard starts exchanging bullets with civilians, North America will change forever.
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I just want to re-iterate....the Border is closed.
CLOSED I TELL YOU!
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