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Old 10-14-2020, 08:26 PM   #2181
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Too early to put on winter tires? I usually do both vehicles around early/mid November but people seem to say earlier is better? Thoughts?

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Totally depends on the year, and vehicle needs for me. Since it doesn't take long, I wait until I need the vehicle, and I see snow coinciding. If it's the first week of November, I do it anyway.
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Old 10-14-2020, 09:53 PM   #2182
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It really depends what tires your car has on it now. If they are all seasons its probably fine until Halloween or early November. If you're on summer high performance tires its a different story. I usually run my summers until Halloween, but this year I changed them already because the weather is terrible for the next week or so.
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Old 10-14-2020, 10:35 PM   #2183
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Yeah, I'm not really surprised here. Going from a 35 series 19" tire to a 55 series 18" tire is a significant change in diameter if you kept the same width.


Should probably run your selection through a tire calculator: https://tiresize.com/calculator/

Eg: Running a 245/35/19 and switching to a taller sidewall 18" wheel/tire combo for winter:

245/35R19 - Diameter: 25.8"
245/40R18 - Diameter: 25.7"
245/45R18 - Diameter: 26.7"
245/55R18 - Diameter: 28.6"

It'll also knock out your speedometer too.
Totally agree dude. I ####ing ran it through, willtheyfit.com and it ####ing said it would. For ff#### sakes.

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Old 10-15-2020, 09:09 AM   #2184
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as a result of this thread i took a closer look at my winter tires and noted that i had all four tires on the incorrect side of my vehicle......facepalm/walk of shame/idiot.

took me 45m to move all of them into the correct position last night. makes me wonder if i have been doing wrong for a while now and i question what i did with my summer tires - but i was too lazy to go and look to see if they are directional. i don't think they are because they were the factory supplied Hankook's - but i could be in for a huge surprise
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Old 10-15-2020, 09:42 AM   #2185
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I was under the impression that most tires these days are directional, but maybe that's just my experience. I haven't yet owned a set of tires that were not directional.
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:49 PM   #2186
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All seasons are asymmetrical, or at least the ones I have, that have one line running down the middle so doesn't matter how they are rotated. Winters though are directional tread patterns so they can't be rotated the same way when putting them on
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Old 10-15-2020, 12:54 PM   #2187
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All depends on the tire. My winters on my truck or not directional. Car is. Both sets of summers aren't.
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:24 PM   #2188
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Lots of tires may not be directional but have an asymmetrical inside/outside patten. That’s be a hard one to screw up in your garage, but I’ve seen a tire guy miss it when mounting before.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:24 PM   #2189
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Looks like I'll be spending a little bit of time in the ol' garage this evening. My wife has to drive tomorrow and it'll be a cold one with likely some snow still kicking about on the roads. All-seasons would be fine, but there is a certain satisfaction about putting the winters on while the weather is taking a nosedive.

My general rule of thumb is to do them just before or during the first big snowfall and/or temperature drop.
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Old 10-16-2020, 06:12 PM   #2190
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Put mine on yesterday as I made a late decision to make a trip to Kelowna today. Very glad because even with the winters on it got a little squirrelly starting at Castle Junction through to Revelstoke.

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Old 10-16-2020, 07:05 PM   #2191
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Try a tire next time. Hit the stuck tire with the tread side of the other tire. I had trouble with a stuck one time, tried a mallet with a board, lying on the ground kicking the tire, used the other tire and it came off easily.

This is what I used to do when I changed my tires myself.
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Totally agree dude. I ####ing ran it through, willtheyfit.com and it ####ing said it would. For ff#### sakes.

Also #### the ####ing swear filter.
Arch gap loss is the key, but that said I would have avoided that combination just for the -10% speedometer error.
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Arch gap loss is the key, but that said I would have avoided that combination just for the -10% speedometer error.
Heck no, gives me a reason to get out of one.
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Old 10-18-2020, 04:49 PM   #2194
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Lots of tires may not be directional but have an asymmetrical inside/outside patten. That’s be a hard one to screw up in your garage, but I’ve seen a tire guy miss it when mounting before.
And yet, my Saturday swap over on my new SUV took 50% longer than it should have...

I also learned that said new SUV is right at the top of the range for my floor jack. I can get the tire maybe 3/4" off the ground.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:15 PM   #2195
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Just got my car back from the shop all ready for winter! Ready to take her out in the snow to play around now.

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Dang. Bad timing. Just got a pretty nasty rip on one tire (all-weather - Toyo Celsius SUV) on AWD crossover vehicle. Estimating I got about 45,000 km on them, so wasn't planning on new tires this year.

In talking with a couple of tire companies, they recommend replacing all 4 tires, or at least 2 (rear) tires at minimal. My friend who is much more mechanically inclined than I am recommended replacing all four:
"having the front and back at different wear tread depth will be hard on the transfer case"

Appreciated thoughts on this, fine CPers...

Not surprisingly, low stock levels on tires these days, limiting available options.

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Dang. Bad timing. Just got a pretty nasty rip on one tire (all-weather - Toyo Celsius SUV) on AWD crossover vehicle. Estimating I got about 45,000 km on them, so wasn't planning on new tires this year.

In talking with a couple of tire companies, they recommend replacing all 4 tires, or at least 2 (rear) tires at minimal. My friend who is much more mechanically inclined than I am recommended replacing all four:
"having the front and back at different wear tread depth will be hard on the transfer case"

Appreciated thoughts on this, fine CPers...

Not surprisingly, low stock levels on tires these days, limiting available options.

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Measure the tread depth and compare to the new tires. There usually is a tolerance that’s is allowed. Suburus are apparently bad for this. Essentially the old tires because they are smaller need to rotate further then the new tires which normally only occurs on corners so your transfer case / differential has to work harder
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Personally if I had to replace two, I would just replace all four, especially at 45000km. Even if you technically don't need to do the front ones, it would be annoying to be replacing the tires at different times going forward.
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Old 11-01-2020, 12:13 PM   #2199
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You can put the old 3 on Kijiji and say "like new, driven one season. Lots of tread left."
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Our fleet runs those tires, and we actually are seeing most due for replacement at 45 000km fwiw.
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