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Old 06-07-2020, 12:03 PM   #1
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It confounds me on a daily basis how people believe this provincial government is for the people. It is not for the people.

It's the fascist-lite playbook, compare this poster you could buy at the US Museum of the Holocaust to what the UCP has been doing bit by bit:



I see at least 8 items on that list that apply.
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Old 06-07-2020, 12:19 PM   #2
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You rail on, Corsi. I admire your persistence, though just a wee bit stubborn.
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Old 06-07-2020, 12:35 PM   #3
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It confounds me on a daily basis how people believe this provincial government is for the people. It is not for the people.

It's the fascist-lite playbook, compare this poster you could buy at the US Museum of the Holocaust to what the UCP has been doing bit by bit:

I see at least 8 items on that list that apply.
My father is a white boomer in his late 60s. Like many people in that demographic, his Facebook page is full of right-wing memes. He's a fierce supporter of the Canadian oil industry. He hates -- HATES -- Justin Trudeau. He's not so far gone that he supports Trump, though. He thinks American Republicans are a special breed of crazy.

A few days ago, I sent him the details of Jason Kenney's Bill 1, copy/pasting text directly from the law, without any editorializing on my part. Except I didn't tell him it was from Alberta. I told him it was a Republican-sponsored bill from the state of Oklahoma in response to the on-going George Floyd protests. He was aghast at the flagrant infringement on civil rights. He said that if he lived in Oklahoma, he would be, and I quote verbatim, "first in line to protest it". I then told him it wasn't from Oklahoma, and it wasn't Trump-supporting Republicans who drafted this piece of legislation. It was conservatives right here in Canada who have such disdain for our Charter-guaranteed rights. I like to think the message got through to him.
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How long does it take before testing will pick up on the virus though?

Based on my quick search, the answer appears to be "we don't know" so someone who attended a protest yesterday, tested negative today, could still have become infected during the protest.

Probably better advice is those who were part of the rally and not following social distance requirements should self-isolate for the next 10 days and get tested near the end (or once symptoms show). But that would be pipedream to have happened with everyone.
Everything I've heard is for people to isolate and to seek out testing a few days afterwards. It's pretty inconclusive for sure.

Either way, if you know someone who attended the protests and they aren't isolating or seeking out testing, you need to call them out. Nobody needs this spiraling our situation out of control. If you could take the time out of your day to protest, you can certainly take the time to make sure you're not infected.
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Old 06-08-2020, 09:27 AM   #5
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Since when have elected officials been invited to high school graduation ceremonies in the first place? Neither my alderman, MLA nor MP came to mine; why would they?

"Graduations are not political, and every elected official should be provided with an opportunity to congratulate our graduates on taking this next step in their life." WTF kind of double-speak is this? If graduations aren't political then elected officials shouldn't be invited.

Good golly our provincial government is trash...
And honestly, even if they are there, who cares? No one is interested in the politician saying "congratulations". You would think that with the issues around public gatherings and limited people who can be in attendance that these would be the first people left off the list.
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I guess the UCP is feeling pretty invincible at this point, pulling something like this in the current social climate: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tors-1.5602571
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What the Zedman link is all about.

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Alberta's UCP government is taking money away from victims to fund policing initiatives in the province, a move opponents of the proposed legislation changes have called unethical and a "ploy."

Justice Minister Doug Schweitzer proposed changes to the Victims of Crime Act and Fund that would allow the government to dip into money meant to support those affected by crime.

"We really feel that someone's peeked over the fence and saw it and thought 'well, I could use that,'" said Alf Rudd.
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What a bunch of cretinous ghouls.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1268945631638323200

https://twitter.com/user/status/1268945979392344064

This hasn't made much in the way of headlines, but the UCP is slowing down access to Freedom of Information requests "because of Covid". Great.
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That’s complete bull####. We have the internet.
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Did anyone mention how a UCP minister wants us to become an "autonomous state"
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Any minute those posters who repeatedly drag Justin Trudeau over the coals for even the smallest of things are going to show up to denounce some of this crazy UCP policy, right? I mean changing a FOI policy seems like the exact kind of thing that Trudeau would get 10 pages of posts for.

Credit to Mr. Coffee for calling it out in here.
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Naw our UCP-voting contingent is fine with the fact that the limpdick PC-remnants are cool with the Wildrose crazies dragging the party into hard authoritarian territory so long as they can keep cutting cheques to dying oil companies and get their deserved kickbacks.
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Still waiting for a positive UCP news day. Been a long time.
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Journalism is already in its death throes, and eroding the FOI act is simply another way of keeping the people in dark concerning the mechanization of power and wealth. The net neutrality issue is one of the biggest concerns in recent history concerning the continuation of a free democratic state, but since journalism is dying and now freedom of information is being curtailed, there is no access to knowing the eventual playbook for consolidating power for the few.
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Wow who could have foresaw that the stupidest possible method for distributing medical equipment ended up being incredibly stupid? Not Shandro apparently.

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I think it's great. I was able to grab a pack quickly and easily before going to visit an elderly family member. The fact that there are idiots dumping them is on the idiots dumping them, and the establishments and people doing it should be called out.
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I think it's great. I was able to grab a pack quickly and easily before going to visit an elderly family member. The fact that there are idiots dumping them is on the idiots dumping them, and the establishments and people doing it should be called out.
I think it’s more that most people don’t care to go get a mask

I don’t know 1 person who has gone to get 1

Place probably are running out of room to store them !
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Yeah putting the onus on teenagers rather than say, a goddamn pharmacy was the work of a true brain genius.
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Yeah putting the onus on teenagers rather than say, a goddamn pharmacy was the work of a true brain genius.
I think it’s smart to keep mask distribution away from health care resources. You are asking a lot of people to go to one location to get something. Making that location a non-essential resource seems reasonable.

If I want people to wear masks who are going to work outside of the home each day Tim Hortons seems like an obvious contact point for a lot of people.
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