06-02-2020, 08:42 AM
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#1301
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Looooooooooooooch
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Yes - its bad. Are you happy now?
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I also like how "a few bad apples" doesn't apply here. Obviously doesn't apply because of the colour chart.
Must always consult the colour chart first.
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06-02-2020, 08:46 AM
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#1302
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Hmm that David Vance guy seems very normal and not a racist piece of #### at all
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06-02-2020, 08:46 AM
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#1303
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Participant
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Originally Posted by Yoho
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I would maybe check your twitter feed, as David Vance is a prominent racist and promoter of hate speech (if you couldn’t tell by the tweet you shared).
In the video itself, the guy says “this is somebodies store” and is needlessly attacked. The aftermath looks like people are being pushed away from him, so there’s certainly a struggle between protestors and the looters.
And, in the end, he isn’t lynched.
If you’re going to share a video and want it to be seen for what it is, don’t share it from a White supremacist that you follow or that someone on your feed thought was worth spreading around. It’s not a good look.
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06-02-2020, 08:48 AM
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#1304
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I saw a clip of guy getting pepper sprayed and then shot point blank in the face with a tear gas canister in Grand Rapids. It is beyond ####ed up in the States right now. I also read Arlington has withdrawn it's police force from DC over the President's bs photo op yesterday.
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06-02-2020, 08:48 AM
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#1305
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iggy City
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An awful racist idiot.
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06-02-2020, 08:48 AM
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#1306
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Wow the replies to that tweet make me wonder what kind of people follow that David Vance guy. Pretty reprehensibly racist stuff even by twitter’s standards.
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06-02-2020, 08:51 AM
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#1307
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
Wow the replies to that tweet make me wonder what kind of people follow that David Vance guy. Pretty reprehensibly racist stuff even by twitter’s standards.
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Don't click on the one that Iggy City posted. Its worse. Need to clear all my internet history and cookies to avoid the internet knowing I read it.
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06-02-2020, 08:52 AM
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#1308
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Lifetime In Suspension
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In other news the Denver protests last night remained fully peaceful. What may have changed you ask? The cops backed off. Funny how that works.
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06-02-2020, 09:12 AM
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#1309
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Franchise Player
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He used lynched on purpose. What a sack of ####.
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06-02-2020, 09:49 AM
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#1310
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One thing I haven't really seen discussed is the incredible unemployment leading to the exacerbation of the rioting. Certainly there's many factors, and Floyd's murder is certainly worth protesting, but I have to think that 40 million mostly young Americans out of work are a powder keg needing a spark.
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06-02-2020, 09:50 AM
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#1311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by corporatejay
He used lynched on purpose. What a sack of ####.
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On multiple posts, as I unfortunately had to check out his twitter feed.
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06-02-2020, 09:56 AM
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#1312
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Scoring Winger
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Whether people recognize it or not, these protests (and looting/riots) aren't just about racism and police brutality towards the black community. They are the result of unchecked inequality in the United States. The only first world country that has a worse GINI coefficient (measure of income inequality) than the Unite d States is Hong Kong.
So when I start seeing every sports team and athlete making racism = bad social media posts, I am getting angry. Not because I don't agree with them. In fact, most of them come across to me as very genuine.
I am getting angry because I can't think of a more perfect example of inequality than pro sports. Athletes and owners can fix this, but they choose not to because they benefit from it. Inequality a root cause issue that is being ignored.
Minneapolis-St Paul in particular has been awful at how they have directed public funds towards pro sports.
Xcel Energy Center. ($171 million)
Target Field. ($522 million)
CHS Field for the Saints. ($63 million)
TCF Bank Stadium for the Gophers. ($287 million)
U.S. Bank Stadium for the Vikings. ($1.1 billion)
Target Center remodelled for the Timberwolves and Lynx. ($197 million)
Allianz Arena for Minnesota United. ($200 million)
Adjusted for inflation, all of these stadiums together cost $2.5 billion, and Minnesota taxpayers shelled out 56 percent of it: $1.4 billion.
This is just raw stadium cost. This is not even factoring in extra policing costs, transit costs, tax and utility breaks, wealthy business people using the 50 percent entertainment expense deduction, paying the bare minimum for largely black concession workers etc...
This is all public money that flows into players and owners hands, at the expense of lowering taxes and funding community improvements.
I'm not a big fan of social media "we're all in this together" type posts in general, but I find them particularly abhorrent when they come from people or organizations who have the power to do better. They can't fix racism with a tweet, but they can do actually do something to improve inequality. I don't know how we fix racism, I wish I knew, but I am confident that redirecting the billions in subsidies to pro-sports back to the community might save a future black persons life.
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06-02-2020, 10:13 AM
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#1313
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Participant
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I agree with everything in 1991’s post, but I would add one thing, which is that I don’t blame pro athletes or celebrities for being beneficiaries of a deeply flawed system. But it is their responsibility to put their money where their mouth is, because money is still “the great equaliser.” Believe in social good? Then do good with your money. Do LOTS of good with your money, not just what you think you can spare to keep living a million miles above the people you supposedly support.
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06-02-2020, 10:26 AM
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#1314
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
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when I was a kid growing up you left the front door unlocked, the rule was if anyone ran through the house you lock the front door immediately as there was a copper chasing them
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06-02-2020, 10:29 AM
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#1315
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
when I was a kid growing up you left the front door unlocked, the rule was if anyone ran through the house you lock the front door immediately as there was a copper chasing them
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You grew up in strange places and in strange times.
I think the normal reaction would be:
"What are you doing in my house? GTFO."
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06-02-2020, 10:35 AM
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#1316
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
You grew up in strange places and in strange times.
I think the normal reaction would be:
"What are you doing in my house? GTFO."
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My family was east end London, much like the DTES here in Vancouver, the older great uncles lived through the depression, they did not see the police as anything other than the enemy, I never understood it really, not my reality but when I started working with native families here it gave me a frame of reference for their reality
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06-02-2020, 10:38 AM
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#1317
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
My family was east end London, much like the DTES here in Vancouver, the older great uncles lived through the depression, they did not see the police as anything other than the enemy, I never understood it really, not my reality but when I started working with native families here it gave me a frame of reference for their reality
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I will now read your posts in a specific accent
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Originally Posted by Sliver
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06-02-2020, 10:39 AM
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#1318
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I will now read your posts in a specific accent
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Not so much, my family gatherings sounded like a Guy Ritchie movie but I grew up in South London which has a softer slurred speech
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06-02-2020, 10:42 AM
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#1319
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Quote:
Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
Not so much, my family gatherings sounded like a Guy Ritchie movie but I grew up in South London which has a softer slurred speech
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I played a fair bit of rugby with boys from Barking RFC, which I think (IIRC) an East London club.
One of them went onto an amazing career, Jason Leonard.
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Originally Posted by Sliver
Just ignore me...I'm in a mood today.
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06-02-2020, 11:19 AM
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#1320
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
One thing I haven't really seen discussed is the incredible unemployment leading to the exacerbation of the rioting. Certainly there's many factors, and Floyd's murder is certainly worth protesting, but I have to think that 40 million mostly young Americans out of work are a powder keg needing a spark.
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This, coupled with the rhetoric coming from Trump since 2016, is what makes this time feel different.
I'm not sure what this will all lead to, but I think it gets worse before it gets better and that is a scary thought.
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