You, Pepsi And Corsi should form an alliance and finally solve all the world’s problems.
Don't take this the wrong way given the overall topic of discussion here, but... just shoot me now and be done with it.
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To serve and protect...by stealing water and milk
They're actually stealing the water and destroying the milk, to ensure the maximum effectiveness of tear gas, presumably to be deployed later in the evening.
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I think only one problem needs to be solved here, and that's stopping American cops from murdering PoCs with impunity.
It's deeper than that. It's eliminating the sense of invincibility from American police departments, and as a corollary, gradually eliminating the current social norm that interactions with the police are to be feared. Obviously the people who are most fearful of them are minorities, for good reason, but the overriding sense that there are no consequences for abuses of authority doesn't stop with black people.
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If it, and acts like it cause change then everyone should be happy, a lot of people died in the civil war in 1642 in order to overthrow the legitimate authority of Charles the First so ultimately we could vote now, almost a million Americans died in their Civil War so the slaves could be freed.
I’m sure you’d feel the same if your step son was the cop.
If it, and acts like it cause change then everyone should be happy, a lot of people died in the civil war in 1642 in order to overthrow the legitimate authority of Charles the First so ultimately we could vote now, almost a million Americans died in their Civil War so the slaves could be freed.
It's easy to applaud violence from behind a keyboard in Canada. But tell me - how would a female cop in Chicago getting beaten unconscious or killed help bring about a righteous outcome? Walk me through the steps.
The protesters who made a ring around the cops are the heroes in that encounter. If they hadn't stepped in, and those officers were beaten or killed, things would have gotten much, much worse for protesters all over the U.S. going forward.
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If this day gets you riled up, you obviously aren't numb to the disappointment yet to be a real fan.
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Don't take this the wrong way given the overall topic of discussion here, but... just shoot me now and be done with it.
They're actually stealing the water and destroying the milk, to ensure the maximum effectiveness of tear gas, presumably to be deployed later in the evening.
It's deeper than that. It's eliminating the sense of invincibility from American police departments, and as a corollary, gradually eliminating the current social norm that interactions with the police are to be feared. Obviously the people who are most fearful of them are minorities, for good reason, but the overriding sense that there are no consequences for abuses of authority doesn't stop with black people.
I believe it needs to go even deeper than just the police. The entire power paradigm needs to be shattered. I really hate to use the term %1 but it truly is white elitism that is the root issue here. Oppress, segregate and marginalize. Keep the masses fractured to rule them.
Not hard to rig the game when you make the rules.
Its everywhere in the system in the U.S. look at the epstein cover up to racial oppression. Its not a blanket white problem, its powerful white people. Media, everything. Fox News exists solely for this purpose.
Just gonna go make a new tin foil hat now, ate the last one.
Yikes, that's some crazy footage. Gotta say, those protestors who stepped in at the end of that clip to protect the cops are pretty damn brave.
There is a photo from Atlanta of several black men holding off people protecting a cop as well. These are the images we should be spreading, show the world that you can be pissed off without stooping to the level of what caused this.
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I believe it needs to go even deeper than just the police. The entire power paradigm needs to be shattered. I really hate to use the term %1 but it truly is white elitism that is the root issue here. Oppress, segregate and marginalize. Keep the masses fractured to rule them.
Not following you. As in, I'm reading this and it doesn't even make sense to me. What exactly, specifically, are you hoping happens to "shatter the entire power paradigm"?
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Just gonna go make a new tin foil hat now, ate the last one.
I'm honestly not sure if kidding.
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I’m sure you’d feel the same if your step son was the cop.
I'd feel a hell a lot better than if my step son (well foster son) was George Floyd, he's dead, like 1 to 2000 mostly coloured Americans every year, if asking the Police nicely worked I would be with you in decrying violence but so far Black America has been asking nicely not to be murdered for centuries and they are still being killed in their thousands a year, how do you propose black America stops cops killing them?
Not following you. As in, I'm reading this and it doesn't even make sense to me. What exactly, specifically, are you hoping happens to "shatter the entire power paradigm"?
I'm honestly not sure if kidding.
I think, he means the problems go beyond the police. The court system is also a problem, PoC often get more substantial sentences. This results in more PoC being felons and being unable to make changes in the voting booth. PoC are often paid less to do the same jobs.... etc.
The entire system is designed to oppress people of color.
I'd feel a hell a lot better than if my step son (well foster son) was George Floyd, he's dead, like 1 to 2000 mostly coloured Americans every year, if asking the Police nicely worked I would be with you in decrying violence but so far Black America has been asking nicely not to be murdered for centuries and they are still being killed in their thousands a year, how do you propose black America stops cops killing them?
If George Floyd was white would it have even made the local news?
If George Floyd was white would it have even made the local news?
I think the obvious retort is "probably not, because he'd probably be alive", but there's really no way to know. Frankly, there are plenty of other incidents wherein some other black dude was treated horribly by a copy and it doesn't make the local news either, this one just happened to because... well, it just did. And because there was a good recording, I guess.
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I think, he means the problems go beyond the police.
Of course they do, but that's a) not what we're talking about here, and b) I don't know what you intend to do to fix that. There are clear steps that can be taken to ameliorate the policing issue. They're fairly big steps, but if you have buy-in from local government, they're eminently do-able. Structural race inequality is centuries in the making and there are no clear steps to fix that. So when someone talks about vague goals like "shattering the power paradigm", my response is necessarily, "what the #### - in real world terms - does that even mean?"
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If George Floyd was white would it have even made the local news?
Not sure if serious.
Black, white, doesn't matter, a cop killing someone in that matter makes headline news every time.
The fact that it's yet another white cop on yet another black man is the reason for the protests and riots. But yes, it definitely makes the local news, obviously.
If watching a cop getting beaten while trying to protect his female partner makes you happy, then that’s fine. You’re a foster parent so you know everything apparently. You, Pepsi And Corsi should form an alliance and finally solve all the world’s problems.
Meet my foster sons uncle, John Williams, in his 40's, lived on the street making cash by carving and selling tourists totem poles, a bit deaf which likely why he didn't understand the cop who killed him, how the **** am I supposed to feel? I knew him, he was a nice guy, a bit rough around the edges, but not violent or even a criminal, just an older native guy trying to survive his crappy Residential school upbringing by drinking too much.
I think, he means the problems go beyond the police. The court system is also a problem, PoC often get more substantial sentences. This results in more PoC being felons and being unable to make changes in the voting booth. PoC are often paid less to do the same jobs.... etc.
The entire system is designed to oppress people of color.
Yes. Thank you for getting the gist of my unpolished turd of a post.