09-24-2021, 03:51 PM
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#21
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Great news, now sign Francis.
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09-24-2021, 03:51 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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He was dominant in the offensive zone in the prospects game. He is going to destroy the Q this year.
I believe he will play in the NHL.
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09-24-2021, 04:00 PM
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#23
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
He could be quite a steal if he learns how to become even a passable 3rd pairing defender. His offensive skill is pretty high end.
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How many years did you patrol, the blue line for the flames???
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09-24-2021, 04:00 PM
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#24
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
Yes. It’s an entirely different position. The 4th line isn’t typically designed around creating offense. Why trade a 3rd for an 18 minute/night defenseman and then play him 5 minutes a night at forward?
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I think I saw him asked this question.
Said he loves having everything up the ice from him so he can see it when he makes his decisions or something like that.
Wouldn't be the same up front.
Which isn't to say it can't be done, but they are different.
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09-24-2021, 04:10 PM
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#25
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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I get M.A. Bergeron vibes from him but without the defensive ability.
He is much bigger mind you and that will serve him well, but IMO a longshot to ever be a regular NHL dman.
Working under Sutter, however briefly, is a great way to change what he needs though, so one can only hope it sticks with him.
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09-24-2021, 04:13 PM
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#26
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I get M.A. Bergeron vibes from him but without the defensive ability.
He is much bigger mind you and that will serve him well, but IMO a longshot to ever be a regular NHL dman.
Working under Sutter, however briefly, is a great way to change what he needs though, so one can only hope it sticks with him.
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Ryan Huska was a defenseman whisperer in Kelowna too.
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09-24-2021, 04:33 PM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dont_trash_Dion
How many years did you patrol, the blue line for the flames???
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Christopher Walken, ladies and gentlemen.
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09-24-2021, 04:37 PM
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#28
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I get M.A. Bergeron vibes from him but without the defensive ability.
He is much bigger mind you and that will serve him well, but IMO a longshot to ever be a regular NHL dman.
Working under Sutter, however briefly, is a great way to change what he needs though, so one can only hope it sticks with him.
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I've watched him quite a bit over the years. I don't want to be a negative Nancy or anything but like this guy has a ton of work to do.
There are not many players like him. Go look at some of his highlights and you will see goals of him driving the net and deking out a few players and the goalie to boot. His offensive skillset in undeniable.
His main tool is his hands, he has wicked hands. Players in the Q have caught on to this and don't rush him as much as they used to on the blue line.
He is also a very capable passer and has an okay shot. His wrister is good but he could work on his Slapper.
He is not slow and can play pretty aggressive the only problem is that he can't control his man. He loses his man all the time, pinches when he shouldnt and doesn't poke check when he should.
Like this is a long long term project, he has all the tools also but needs to completely change the way he plays in both the neutral zone and D zone.
I am and always was far more confident in Francis than Poirier.
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09-24-2021, 06:02 PM
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#29
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Hopefully the Flames don't give Poirier the Kylington/Niku treatment
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09-24-2021, 06:12 PM
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#30
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper
Christopher Walken, ladies and gentlemen.
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09-24-2021, 06:19 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
Because creating offense from the blueline is an entirely different skillset than creating offense as a forward
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I remember when the Flames tried Housley as a center and he hated it. He mentioned how as a defenseman, you get used to seeing plays develop from a different perspective.
There is a place in the NHL for one dimensional offensive defensemen. It’s all about deployment and accepting that there is going to be some give and take on the scoreboard.
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09-24-2021, 07:43 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dont_trash_Dion
How many years did you patrol, the blue line for the flames???
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper
Christopher Walken, ladies and gentlemen.
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My personal post of the year candidate, I’mmm, still laughing.
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09-24-2021, 08:03 PM
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#33
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#1 Goaltender
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Is he Tyson Barrie level bad at defense?
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09-24-2021, 08:04 PM
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#34
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
Is he Tyson Barrie level bad at defense?
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Yes
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09-24-2021, 08:58 PM
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#35
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All I can get
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The QMJHL is a pretty trigger-happy, scorers' league. Let's hope he can refine his game all-around in Saint John.
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09-24-2021, 09:02 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan
Is he Tyson Barrie level bad at defense?
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Likely quite a bit worse. If he doesn’t improve quite a bit, he won’t sniff the NHL.
But his ceiling is high.
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09-24-2021, 09:10 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Would Keith Yandle be an appropriate upside comparison? Another defenseman from the Q who wracked up points with less than stellar defense.
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09-24-2021, 09:23 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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I missed the prospect games. Was Poirier bad in them? Seems to be a lot of negativity towards this player. Brad Treliving sounded really happy with his performance.
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09-24-2021, 09:24 PM
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#39
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I missed the prospect games. Was Poirier bad in them? Seems to be a lot of negativity towards this player. Brad Treliving sounded really happy with his performance.
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He looked great every time the team had the puck in the offensive zone as he snuck in really well and created a lot of chances.
But he also looked terrible in the defensive zone.
So he was as advertised.
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09-24-2021, 09:27 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL
Even if he manages to bring his defensive game from horrendous to decently below-average, he'll have himself a great career.
Not many, if any more offensively gifted defensive prospects.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1441503278714425345
Think he legitimately has a great chance to surpass 80 points this year in the Q
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How do they count “dekes”? Do they even count that in the NHL? Except for Edmonton that is
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