Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 01-07-2019, 03:13 PM   #221
linecook
Backup Goalie
 
linecook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Exp:
Default

Nexoptic (NXO) has developed a new binocular device called DoubleTake using their flat lens technology. It's still in the development stage but states the product will be on sale this year in Q3.

They're at the Las Vegas Tech show and their product is listed as one of the "cool new products". It's #7 on the list.

https://www.cnet.com/pictures/all-th...s-at-ces-2019/

The stock is trading at $0.74 and in my opinion is a bargain.
linecook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2019, 04:08 PM   #222
username
Powerplay Quarterback
 
username's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by linecook View Post
Nexoptic (NXO) has developed a new binocular device called DoubleTake using their flat lens technology. It's still in the development stage but states the product will be on sale this year in Q3.

They're at the Las Vegas Tech show and their product is listed as one of the "cool new products". It's #7 on the list.

https://www.cnet.com/pictures/all-th...s-at-ces-2019/

The stock is trading at $0.74 and in my opinion is a bargain.
Wow, you've held on to them this long since they shot up over a year ago and then came crashing down?
username is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2019, 08:07 AM   #223
linecook
Backup Goalie
 
linecook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by username View Post
Wow, you've held on to them this long since they shot up over a year ago and then came crashing down?
I've bought and sold, but for the most part been holding long and accumulating.
linecook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 02:07 PM   #224
jeffporfirio
Scoring Winger
 
jeffporfirio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

Looks like the bear market might be losing its grip.

Spoiler!


These large caps have recently crossed the 200 day SMA, and are currently over the EMA on the 180-day chart. Might be ripe for the picking:

V
MA
AMZN

also, MSFT and WMT are about to cross the 200 day SMA, and over the EMA

of course, the orange clown in the WH can still crap all over the market with his stupid comments or decisions.
jeffporfirio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 03:11 PM   #225
OMG!WTF!
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

The meeting with Powell, Yellin and Bernanke last week was really the turning point for the bear market. The word "patient" with future rate decisions was the key to this rally.



I meant to ask last time...what's the "High Yield Master II Option Adjusted Spread"? It looks important.
OMG!WTF! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 03:28 PM   #226
jeffporfirio
Scoring Winger
 
jeffporfirio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OMG!WTF! View Post
The meeting with Powell, Yellin and Bernanke last week was really the turning point for the bear market. The word "patient" with future rate decisions was the key to this rally.



I meant to ask last time...what's the "High Yield Master II Option Adjusted Spread"? It looks important.
Spread between junk and govt bond yields, which directly correlates to bull/bear markets
jeffporfirio is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to jeffporfirio For This Useful Post:
Old 01-09-2019, 03:32 PM   #227
OMG!WTF!
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffporfirio View Post
Spread between junk and govt bond yields, which directly correlates to bull/bear markets
I dont understand why that is.. And Google is being obtuse again. Mind explaining it for dummies? Seems interesting and worth watching.
OMG!WTF! is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2019, 03:42 PM   #228
jeffporfirio
Scoring Winger
 
jeffporfirio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

Reposting
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffporfirio View Post
Wanted to share.

I read today an article on the Globe and Mail that stated that the end of the bull market could be predicted by the widening spread of the yields between junk bonds and government bonds, and that this has worked 8 of the last 9 times.



Here is the article:

https://goo.gl/LJWqgk



Currently, the spread is narrow, so we might be in a steady bull market for the short term.



Here is a nice chart:



https://goo.gl/gQShSx
jeffporfirio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2019, 06:37 AM   #229
Slava
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OMG!WTF! View Post
I dont understand why that is.. And Google is being obtuse again. Mind explaining it for dummies? Seems interesting and worth watching.
The article doesn’t explain why that is either, just that it worked 8/9 times. That might be 8/10 times now, but we don’t really know. There’s an old joke that the stock market has predicted 9 of the last 5 recessions, which I think gives you some idea of the accuracy of these predictions in general!

The truth is that no one knows though. People’s predictions and sentiments change with the wind, and that’s not a knock on anyone individually. It’s basically a statement of fact for humans, unfortunately.
Slava is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Slava For This Useful Post:
Old 01-10-2019, 06:58 AM   #230
OMG!WTF!
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Exp:
Default

This article explains it a bit better...

https://bullmarkets.co/study-how-is-...-stock-market/

I don't think it's predictive in the short term. They seem to talk about 10 month patterns and longer time frames. I just like learning about this stuff. Smart money in bonds. Dumb money in stocks. I wonder though if that is fundamentally changing.
OMG!WTF! is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to OMG!WTF! For This Useful Post:
Old 01-10-2019, 07:10 PM   #231
fleury
#1 Goaltender
 
fleury's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Exp:
Default

I agree that nobody knows. It's hilariously annoying to hear every analyst claiming the economy will go bad when it's in a downturn, and that it's going to keep going up, up and up when it's in an upswing. Nobody does know, and half of those analysts are wrong. I'm sure technical indicators work to some degree, but it's all emotion for the most part (barring something economically catastrophic) so why listen to the bigwigs who play it off like they knew what was happening? Personally, I'm waiting for another 3% overall gain (this week was a good recovery), and I'm going to call it quits for the next year, more or less. If that happens I'd be at about a 4% loss for the year which I'm comfortable with at this point. When peoples' emotions are thrown for a wack as has happened this past month, it really makes the market swing wildly, and personally while I don't worry or stress, I do get annoyed those days when I check in first thing in the morning and see a 3% loss. It personally gets me pissy for a few hours and I don't like it. So once this China deal comes, and if it doesn't come with a bunch of false positives along the way, it should amount to a nice pop. Hopefully it's in the next month and I can just pull out.
fleury is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2019, 07:24 PM   #232
Shazam
Franchise Player
 
Shazam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
Exp:
Default

The inverted yield curve and a recession following is a recent discovery (post-2008). That is, maybe other people knew about it but it was not as well known as it is now.

It could just be coincidence.
__________________
If you don't pass this sig to ten of your friends, you will become an Oilers fan.
Shazam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2019, 06:34 AM   #233
Slava
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam View Post
The inverted yield curve and a recession following is a recent discovery (post-2008). That is, maybe other people knew about it but it was not as well known as it is now.

It could just be coincidence.
I disagree though. The inverted yield curve isn’t new at all, and the curve has inverted and we haven’t fallen into recession every time. To me if you get false positives, it’s virtually useless, because there’s no point. You’re back to having to decide based on other things anyway.

I find these “indicators” or whatever really interesting. There are the seasonal methods with the most well known being “sell in May and go away”, the January Effect. One guy wrote a book called the October Method and the list goes on. Then you have the lipstick indicator, white paint, ladies hems and of course the Superbowl indicator. I’m definitely missing some, and as interesting as they all can be and fun to check out, none work. I’ve read some scholarly research on these topics (which I mainly read thinking “they got paid to check this?!) and the conclusions were basically that sometimes it works, and maybe a majority of the time but not always.
Slava is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2019, 06:52 AM   #234
Shazam
Franchise Player
 
Shazam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
Exp:
Default

Just saying what Scott Barlow said:

Quote:
The yield curve also retains its reputation as an effective predictor of U.S. economic recessions. A curve inversion – when the 10-year yield falls below the two-year yield – has preceded all recent U.S. recessions.

Importantly, the yield curve was not as widely followed by strategists and investors when it last signalled a recession ahead of the financial crisis. There has historically been a 14-month average delay between a curve inversion and a recession, but with more market participants following the yield curve now, markets are likely to react much more strongly if it does invert.
__________________
If you don't pass this sig to ten of your friends, you will become an Oilers fan.
Shazam is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Shazam For This Useful Post:
Old 01-11-2019, 08:39 AM   #235
Slava
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shazam View Post
Just saying what Scott Barlow said:
Yeah and I read his stuff all the time as well. To be clear, I just like discussing these things and I'm not attacking you or anyone else on these things (in case it comes across that way).

But let's pretend that Barlow is right in that article (which I remember reading back in the fall sometime?). I'm not sure what you do with that information? Like if we have a recession and let's pretend its September 2019...what does that mean for today? I think that selling everything today and sitting on the sidelines would be questionable for a few reasons. What if you're wrong? What if all we had here is a routine, healthy pullback and the fed stepped in and made sure that everything was decent and we saw a recovery and "business as usual"? And if you're right, you've foregone basically 3 quarters worth of dividends and whatever gains you would have had for the next 9 months. But just as importantly, what if you're right that the recession is coming and that winds up being a 20% decline from the peak...which still leaves you significantly above where you bought in to begin with? I'm just not sure that selling and trying to time a reentry is the right course of action for a long term investor.
Slava is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2019, 05:54 PM   #236
Slava
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

I don’t know if many around here care, particularly, but RIP Jack Bogle. A true legend and innovator in finance passed away at 89 today.
Slava is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2019, 08:24 AM   #237
Izzle
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava View Post
I don’t know if many around here care, particularly, but RIP Jack Bogle. A true legend and innovator in finance passed away at 89 today.
Big loss, in terms of humanity losing a thoroughly decent person. From all reports, Jack Bogle was an incredibly humble yet super-smart man.

His legacy, however, will continue to live on (perhaps not so much in this thread). Low cost index fund investing long-term to build wealth and general financial planning should be thought in high school as much as any of the sciences, IMO.
Izzle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2019, 04:07 PM   #238
bizaro86
#1 Goaltender
 
bizaro86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Exp:
Default

The biggest thing people don't know about Jack Bogle is that he intentionally made Vanguard a mutual. So the vanguard fund management business is actually owned by the investors in the vanguard mutual funds. Any profits go back to the fund holders.

He could have easily made Vanguard a for-profit owned by himself, and his low-cost indexing approach would have still taken off. He would easily have been a multi-billionaire, but chose to give that up to make his funds even lower cost. He basically gave those billions to his customers.
bizaro86 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to bizaro86 For This Useful Post:
Old 04-11-2019, 10:37 AM   #239
MJK
Franchise Player
 
MJK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: N/A
Exp:
Default

I have some cash I am looking to invest, what is looking good out there right now?
MJK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2019, 10:59 AM   #240
Shazam
Franchise Player
 
Shazam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava View Post
Yeah and I read his stuff all the time as well. To be clear, I just like discussing these things and I'm not attacking you or anyone else on these things (in case it comes across that way).

But let's pretend that Barlow is right in that article (which I remember reading back in the fall sometime?). I'm not sure what you do with that information? Like if we have a recession and let's pretend its September 2019...what does that mean for today? I think that selling everything today and sitting on the sidelines would be questionable for a few reasons. What if you're wrong? What if all we had here is a routine, healthy pullback and the fed stepped in and made sure that everything was decent and we saw a recovery and "business as usual"? And if you're right, you've foregone basically 3 quarters worth of dividends and whatever gains you would have had for the next 9 months. But just as importantly, what if you're right that the recession is coming and that winds up being a 20% decline from the peak...which still leaves you significantly above where you bought in to begin with? I'm just not sure that selling and trying to time a reentry is the right course of action for a long term investor.
Oh, um, nothing at all, really. There really is no timing the market.
__________________
If you don't pass this sig to ten of your friends, you will become an Oilers fan.
Shazam is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:26 PM.

Calgary Flames
2017-18




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2016