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Old 01-11-2019, 08:20 PM   #4861
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Can anyone recommend a place and maybe a model, etc. for a new stereo? I want something Apple Car Play and/or something that will mirror my phone. My car has a full nav and all that and I hate it. The actual nav is terrible to use, and playing podcasts/audiobooks and such is just not good enough.
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:02 PM   #4862
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Can anyone recommend a place and maybe a model, etc. for a new stereo? I want something Apple Car Play and/or something that will mirror my phone. My car has a full nav and all that and I hate it. The actual nav is terrible to use, and playing podcasts/audiobooks and such is just not good enough.
If you’re installing yourself? Crutchfield.

Decent prices, amazing customer service (they’ve talked to me on speaker phone while installing), and lots of extras like instructions and wiring harnesses.

If you’re having it installed, see my recommendation to corsi. Only place I’ll let touch my car.
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:05 PM   #4863
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I know a lot of people are disappointed after such a long wait but I think it's a great looking car. IMO the best looking new vehicle since the F Type.

The price is also pretty great. People were expecting $75K+ USD.


Inline 6 Twin Scroll Turbo, 340PS at 5000-6500RPM, 500NM at 1600-4500RPM

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Weight of 1520kg.

4380mm Long, 1865mm Wide, 1295mm Tall

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Wheel Base of 2470mm.

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Old 01-14-2019, 06:06 PM   #4864
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"It only comes with an 8 speed automatic transmission"

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Old 01-14-2019, 06:29 PM   #4865
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It'll probably come in the future. The Z4 has it, and both share the same ZF 8 speed.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:32 PM   #4866
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Z4 is auto only, I believe only M cars will have manual option going forward.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:52 PM   #4867
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Don't like it styling is awkward to my eyes. And why couldn't Toyota make this on their own instead of raiding the BMW parts bin.
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:52 PM   #4868
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because Toyota doesn't have an extremely tunable straight 6 engine
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Old 01-14-2019, 06:55 PM   #4869
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because Toyota doesn't have an extremely tunable straight 6 engine
Then make one it's not like they haven't done it before the JZ is the best inline-6 ever built and possibly the best mass production engine ever.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:37 PM   #4870
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Unfortunately the car probably doesn't get made without BMW.

At least Toyota is still looking to make some fun cars. I hope it has success.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:04 AM   #4871
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I was lukewarm looking at the pictures but after watching this pretty thorough video I actually kind of think it's pretty nice. Supposedly Toyota did develop a manual transmission for this car but they are debating what markets they will offer it. I think it would make sense if they wanted to offer an entry level model.


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Old 01-15-2019, 09:12 AM   #4872
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Toyota would have spent hundreds of millions or billions developing an inline 6 that would probably be as good or marginally better than the B58. There was no reason to reinvent the wheel on a car that probably had so-so economics to begin with.
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Then make one it's not like they haven't done it before the JZ is the best inline-6 ever built and possibly the best mass production engine ever.
The company that made the 2JZ-GTE has not existed for decades. Toyota will barely spend money to design new engines for their volume sellers as they have been pretty well carrying over older designs like the decades old GR V6 just updating them over the years. The fact that Subaru and BMW have build their last two performance cars should be a pretty good indication that the Toyota that built the Celica Alltrack, MR2 Turbo, Supra Turbo is long dead.
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Toyota would have spent hundreds of millions or billions developing an inline 6 that would probably be as good or marginally better than the B58. There was no reason to reinvent the wheel on a car that probably had so-so economics to begin with.
Yeah. B58 has a closed deck block and bigger turbo than the N55 engine that made up to 365 hp in the outgoing M2. These new BMW I6's are really nice engines. This new car is already considerably faster stock than the last Supra which while quick for its time would be pretty slow in this day and age.
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Old 01-15-2019, 09:24 AM   #4875
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People should be cautious about buying the Supra for huge power gains in the aftermarket. Early results from flash tuning are pretty marginal on that engine. It's still in the early days, but I wouldn't expect that BMW left 100+hp on the table like they did with the N55 and S55. The interesting engine for me is the still to be released S58 which is hopefully twin turbo like the S55.

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Old 01-15-2019, 09:30 AM   #4876
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BMW has tuned the same engine for 385 HP on other models, and they quote wheel horse power unlike every other manufacturer. The B58 can easily push well over 400.
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They sandbag the numbers, but they don't quote wheel hp.
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The fact that Subaru and BMW have build their last two performance cars should be a pretty good indication that the Toyota that built the Celica Alltrack, MR2 Turbo, Supra Turbo is long dead.
This makes me sad.
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People should be cautious about buying the Supra for huge power gains in the aftermarket. Early results from flash tuning are pretty marginal on that engine. It's still in the early days, but I wouldn't expect that BMW left 100+hp on the table like they did with the N55 and S55. The interesting engine for me is the still to be released S58 which is hopefully twin turbo like the S55.
I expect that engine will be close to 500 hp but I don't see that engine going in anything other than the next M3/M4. The N55 engine had an open deck block which limited it's ultimate potential but that's not an issue with the B58.
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Old 01-15-2019, 11:27 AM   #4880
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It's going in the X3M as the first model to launch. X3M will be 450+ so the M3/M4 should be 500ish.
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