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Old 01-08-2019, 10:30 PM   #41
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We have a german made Bosch. Have had it for 4 years now. Its amazingly quiet, usually i need to see the red dot to know its on. Also, this thing cleans everything. Not one problem since buying it.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:31 PM   #42
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I can vouch that Miele is pretty awesome and Frigidaire sucks.

The Frigidaire that came with the new build I moved into and clogged after 7 or 8 months. I couldn't even get Frigidaire to come out after filling in their online forms. Luckily, I was able to figure out how to fix it myself for free without dismantling anything. Essentially, because I wasn't pre-rinsing and running the dishwasher every few days once I had a full load, there was grease that was accumulating in some trap at the bottom. I had to pour water in there and wait for the grease to rise and then scoop it out. My Frigidaire experienced a blockage due to liquid grease, not even solidified grease. I now pre-rinse, pour hot water into the bottom of my dishwasher now every few months before I start a cycle (so that grease hopefully cannot accumulate) and run the dishwasher even if it isn't a full load and it hasn't clogged. That's doable, but kinda annoying. That and the cleaning of the dishes isn't always the greatest.

My brother has a Miele and I am always jealous at how quiet it is and how clean his dishes are with seemingly no effort.
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:37 PM   #43
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^^ Are you telling me that a dishwasher should handle cooked-on rice? I am definitely upgrading after we do a kitchen reno.
I will purposely test it to the limits in terms of how much I can fit in 1 load or how dirty the dishes can be.

As an example, my wife can cook her satay chicken / rice dish with peanut sauce that has peanut butter. The chicken is done in a frying pan and leaves that burn type mark usually requiring a scrub, bowls have all sorts of mixes and spices hardened to the side by the time its ready to load, spoons covered in peanut butter, etc. I wont rinse a single dish. Whatever falls in the garbage when I tip the dish is as good of a "rinse" as I will do. Everything comes out spotless.

It did require some trial and error. I moved the utensil basket to the other side where you can do power pressure as they needed it more so than a plate would. Dishwasher soap also made a HUGE difference. The high end finish stuff is night and day compared to anything else I have tried.

ok, now I feel like the ultimate dishwasher nerd
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Old 01-08-2019, 10:44 PM   #44
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Will the Miele's do a proper job of cleaning peanut buttery knives? Our current Frigidaire is incapable of removing peanut butter or nutella.
Mine does, both crunchy and smooth)) The only thing I will give a quick rinse or scrub are utensils or pots and pans that were used for cooking rice or potatoes. I don't bother with the potato masher. I just lay it on the middle rack and it gets sparkling clean every time.

Here is a nice thing about a Miele dishwasher. If your water temperature is not hot enough, it heats it to the optimum temperature for cleaning dishes. Dishes won't get as clean in cool or cold water.

I use Cascade or Costco liquid dishwasher detergent. I prefer the liquid over the cubes. I also have a Kinetico soft water system and washing anything in soft water makes a difference. I usually use the normal pots and pans setting unless I have a very light load.

The other thing I love about a Miele dishwasher is the third rack on top for flatware. That leaves so much room in the rest of the dishwasher for pots and pans or large bowls.

My daughter has a Bosch...got a great deal at Home Depot, and really likes it. It does not have the third rack for flatware though.

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Old 01-09-2019, 06:29 AM   #45
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Our Kitchenaid has been great. I don't rinse a thing. The only part I dislike is the normal eco wash is about 2 hours. But you can do a quick wash where it uses more water but is done in under an hour, which is handy to have as an option. It also has a sanitizer cycle.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:24 PM   #46
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With respect to the Miele recommendations out there, I am curious to hear which models you have. Are we talking the entry-level model (G4228U)?
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With respect to the Miele recommendations out there, I am curious to hear which models you have. Are we talking the entry-level model (G4228U)?
Both of mine are Incognito models. They have all the settings hidden in the inside of the door.

My one in Priddis is stainless steel. I think I paid about $1500 for it??? not sre as that was in 2006.

My one in Calgary matches the wood of my cupboards. I am not sure how much it cost as I am the second owner of this residence.

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Bosch have a problem with setting on fire. They have had over 6,000,000 recalls because of this. I had one i bought in my current house when i moved in ten years. It caught fire three times inside the JB. Worked well but scared the hell out of me.
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$2k for a dishwasher?
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$2k for a dishwasher major home appliance that you will likely use every day for the usable life of the product?
Haha Wise investment
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$2k for a dishwasher?
Haha
We're talking in Canadian Pesos. It's like $1.49 for you.
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We have a german made Bosch. Have had it for 4 years now. Its amazingly quiet, usually i need to see the red dot to know its on. Also, this thing cleans everything. Not one problem since buying it.
This is our Bosch experience as well. No need to pre-wash, quiet, and works without error.

Our Bosch is laid out for thin (corel) plates, and for the right dish shape, you can cram it full. If you have thicker (stone-ware) or really concave plates or bowls, they may not fit well as the dish slots are narrow and specifically-curved.
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With respect to the Miele recommendations out there, I am curious to hear which models you have. Are we talking the entry-level model (G4228U)?
The one we have is a “G51055 stainless steel with cutlery tray”. I have no idea if that is an entry level Miele or a ‘high end’ one, or somewhere in between. That’s also a 5 or almost 6 year old model now.
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Old 01-10-2019, 06:18 PM   #54
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I bought a Blomberg 4.5years ago, German made, no issues. Was about $700 I think.
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A Frigidaire came with our house and it sucks, would not recommend. We’ll be replacing it in the next year or two.
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