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Old 06-23-2015, 09:30 AM   #1
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It's interesting to say the least that every rap song that has the word in it, isn't banned immediately.

If someone rich and powerful for instance, who maybe owned a pro sports team said something mildly racist, he'd be canned and forced to sell his team. Yet the word is basically mainstream.
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personally the n-bomb does not offend me (i am a WASP though), and it is not a word that is really in my vocabulary.
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The N Word: Who Can Say It, Who Shouldn't, and Why

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It's interesting to say the least that every rap song that has the word in it, isn't banned immediately.

If someone rich and powerful for instance, who maybe owned a pro sports team said something mildly racist, he'd be canned and forced to sell his team. Yet the word is basically mainstream.
Donald Sterling no longer owning the Clippers totally makes up for the way the US has treated black people for the previous 300 years.
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Are NSFW tags really necessary with that video? The President of the United States made a comment about the state of racism in his country.
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I'm not asking if the word is offensive to people or not. That's on each person, individually, to make that choice.

What I'm asking is: is it OK to us the word, depending on the context of the conversation? Is it OK to use the word if you're a journalist? White or black?
Yes, it's okay for a journalist to use that word in a journalistic context. If grown ups are having a mature discussion about the state of race relations then it's asinine that they should not be able to use a word central in the conflict. They don't call slavery 's-time', and when you have adults trying to have a serious discussion saying 'n-bomb', it makes it impossible for anyone to take what they're saying seriously.
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You're missing some crucial context as to why he's being so showy about it. A guest on the program had gotten into a pretty heated debate with him before he had the sign made up at kinkos.

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Yes, it's okay for a journalist to use that word in a journalistic context. If grown ups are having a mature discussion about the state of race relations then it's asinine that they should not be able to use a word central in the conflict. They don't call slavery 's-time', and when you have adults trying to have a serious discussion saying 'n-bomb', it makes it impossible for anyone to take what they're saying seriously.
A great way to put it. I will incorporate this phrase into my arguments surrounding the word.
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Once again, a funny Louis CK bit comes to mind:

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I totally agree with his stance on using the word in context. Seems like a totally reasonable and mature argument, I see no losing of minds here. Likewise with Obama, the context he used it in was totally appropriate.

Sweeping the term under the rug achieves nothing.
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Thanks for the YouTube link/embedding. I included this video (link) in the OP, originally.

So Don thinks it's OK to use the word, as long as it's in proper context. But as you can see it clearly offends some people.

I don't think the President used it for "shock value" or to get attention. He used it in a context to show what racism is like or the level at which it's at in America. But it looks like it's shocked quite a few people.
Unfortunately so many people have gotten used to using "I'm offended" as a trump card for shutting down meaningful debate and discussion. Too many people capitulate to the card as if offense is something that should never ever be experienced by a human.

Evil exists everywhere in the world. Racism is a form of ignorant evil. We should be offended by it. If enough people feel uncomfortable about it then there is an opportunity for real change. Pretending that racial tensions and issues don't exist does nothing but prolong incivility.
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I totally agree with his stance on using the word in context. Seems like a totally reasonable and mature argument, I see no losing of minds here. Likewise with Obama, the context he used it in was totally appropriate.

Sweeping the term under the rug achieves nothing.
I agree with you , but guess what? I'd never use it in context of describing something or whatever in a professional setting. Too many people have lost their jobs and had lives ruined because someone took offense to something and made it a personal vendetta to take the offender down.

I'd rather not risk my career/quality of life because someone might misconstrue something, or even simply be offended by something that is not offensive.

It's a sad state of affairs. People aren't offended by the millions of actually oppressed minorities and women worldwide, but if someone makes a slightly racist or sexist comment, even by accident, they are public enemy #1. Why do they not pursue actual oppression with the same zeal they attack people who have made a comment, but haven't actually abused/killed/oppressed anyone?
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